From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Feb 3 10:09:47 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, February 3 2009 Volume 01 : Number 2990 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life [db] the joys of 123's and 124's Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:14:42 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life well that's the problem... you should have tried an '82-'85 123 300D, or better a '90-'93 2.5L TD 300D, or possibly an '87-88 3.0L TD 300D... all of those have a few quirks but overall are great. my son has an '85 300D 3.0L TD and it just works. my '91 300D has been a great car... only a few issues, if I sat down and figured out all that I've spent on repairs over the last few years, considered the fuel economy and such it's probably paid for itself many times over... I'd recommend trying another Diesel Benz... the 124 series... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com/fotos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # That Benz engine just doesn't excite me... I had SO much trouble # with my 240D that I don't think I ever want to own another one. # I just hang around here for the entertainment! # # ;) # # Jim # # --- On Tue, 2/3/09, john wrote: # # > From: john # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:02 AM # > I'm not having that much influence... or you'd be # > stuffing # > a Benz motor in a Jeep Cherokee.... ;) # > # > I do have two nibbles on my little tug WITHOUT the engine. # > :) # > # > Found a dead WJ and several possible XJ candidates... :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://freegift.com # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # Really?? I talked to someone who said that they # > redesigned the # > # rotor/hub relationship and made it slide over from the # > outside on # > # the 01's and later. Maybe that was misinformation? # > Either way, # > # when I put them back together I slather the mating # > surfaces of the # > # hub and control arm so they won't do that again. # > Next time should # > # go much faster. The calipers come off nicely. Overall # > I really # > # like my RAM. But I have been hanging around this list # > too long. # > # Too much exposure to John's bad influences. I'm # > currently contemplating # > # transplanting a Cummins into a Ford Excursion... # > # # > # ;) # > # # > # Jim # > # # > # > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Kevin # > # > # > wrote: # > # > # > # > > From: Kevin # > # > > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life # > # > > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > # > # > # > > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > # > > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:50 PM # > # > > I can't remember how the 05's 4x4 # > setup is, # > # > but I # > # > > remember not liking it. # > # > > Since I got the 87 K30 4x4 dually back on the # > road, # > # > the # > # > > dodge doesn't get # > # > > driven much anymore. It's just too much of # > a pain # > # > to # > # > > deal with when something # > # > > goes wonky. # > # > > # > # > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 05:23:13AM -0800, Jim # > Hoffman # > # > > wrote: # > # > > > Excellent! Glad to hear that it's # > running # > # > well # > # > > again. # > # > > > # > # > > > I headed out yesterday and started # > disassembling # > # > the # > # > > front right # > # > > > brake system on my RAM. You have to pull # > the # > # > > hub/bearing assembly # > # > > > to get the rotor off. They mounted the # > rotor # > # > BEHIND # > # > > the hub and # > # > > > pushed the lug nuts through to hold it # > all # > # > together as # > # > > an assembly! # > # > > > What a PIA!! And the hub assembly is # > notorious # > # > for # > # > > rusting itself # > # > > > solid to the control arm. That's # > what # > # > happened on # > # > > the driver's side # > # > > > last year! Hopefully, taking what I # > learned last # > # > > year, this side # > # > > > will go more smoothly... # > # > > > # > # > > > ;) # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:16:04 -0600 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM, john wrote: > > my son has an '85 300D 3.0L TD and it just works. > That is a late model W123 in a nutshell. It's a shame they are now so old. Alec ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 09:44:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life It's main problem was it just didn't want to start in Wisconsin winters. Even with fully functioning glow plugs. Starting in winter is kinda important to me... ;) Jim - --- On Tue, 2/3/09, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life > To: "Jim Hoffman" > Cc: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:14 AM > well that's the problem... you should have tried > an '82-'85 123 300D, or better a '90-'93 > 2.5L TD 300D, > or possibly an '87-88 3.0L TD 300D... all of those > have a few quirks but overall are great. > > my son has an '85 300D 3.0L TD and it just works. > > my '91 300D has been a great car... only a few issues, > if I sat down and figured out all that I've spent on > repairs > over the last few years, considered the fuel economy and > such > it's probably paid for itself many times over... > > I'd recommend trying another Diesel Benz... the 124 > series... > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://freegift.com > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > http://wagoneers.com/fotos > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # That Benz engine just doesn't excite me... I had SO > much trouble > # with my 240D that I don't think I ever want to own > another one. > # I just hang around here for the entertainment! > # > # ;) > # > # Jim > # > # --- On Tue, 2/3/09, john > wrote: > # > # > From: john > # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life > # > To: "Jim Hoffman" > > # > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:02 AM > # > I'm not having that much influence... or > you'd be > # > stuffing > # > a Benz motor in a Jeep Cherokee.... ;) > # > > # > I do have two nibbles on my little tug WITHOUT the > engine. > # > :) > # > > # > Found a dead WJ and several possible XJ > candidates... :) > # > > # > john > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps > don't > # > rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > http://freegift.com > # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: > # > > # > # Really?? I talked to someone who said that they > # > redesigned the > # > # rotor/hub relationship and made it slide over > from the > # > outside on > # > # the 01's and later. Maybe that was > misinformation? > # > Either way, > # > # when I put them back together I slather the > mating > # > surfaces of the > # > # hub and control arm so they won't do that > again. > # > Next time should > # > # go much faster. The calipers come off nicely. > Overall > # > I really > # > # like my RAM. But I have been hanging around > this list > # > too long. > # > # Too much exposure to John's bad influences. > I'm > # > currently contemplating > # > # transplanting a Cummins into a Ford Excursion... > # > # > # > # ;) > # > # > # > # Jim > # > # > # > # > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Kevin > # > > # > # > wrote: > # > # > > # > # > > From: Kevin > > # > # > > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in > my life > # > # > > To: "Jim Hoffman" > # > # > > # > # > > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > # > # > > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:50 > PM > # > # > > I can't remember how the 05's > 4x4 > # > setup is, > # > # > but I > # > # > > remember not liking it. > # > # > > Since I got the 87 K30 4x4 dually back > on the > # > road, > # > # > the > # > # > > dodge doesn't get > # > # > > driven much anymore. It's just too > much of > # > a pain > # > # > to > # > # > > deal with when something > # > # > > goes wonky. > # > # > > > # > # > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 05:23:13AM > -0800, Jim > # > Hoffman > # > # > > wrote: > # > # > > > Excellent! Glad to hear that > it's > # > running > # > # > well > # > # > > again. > # > # > > > > # > # > > > I headed out yesterday and > started > # > disassembling > # > # > the > # > # > > front right > # > # > > > brake system on my RAM. You have > to pull > # > the > # > # > > hub/bearing assembly > # > # > > > to get the rotor off. They > mounted the > # > rotor > # > # > BEHIND > # > # > > the hub and > # > # > > > pushed the lug nuts through to > hold it > # > all > # > # > together as > # > # > > an assembly! > # > # > > > What a PIA!! And the hub > assembly is > # > notorious > # > # > for > # > # > > rusting itself > # > # > > > solid to the control arm. > That's > # > what > # > # > happened on > # > # > > the driver's side > # > # > > > last year! Hopefully, taking > what I > # > learned last > # > # > > year, this side > # > # > > > will go more smoothly... > # > # > > > > # > # > > > ;) > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:06:07 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] the joys of 123's and 124's yeah, and back east I'm sure they're disintegrating due to rust... :( I'm very happy with my 124. It was pulling to the right, thought I had a broken belt... they rotated the tires and rebalanced and it's doing great now... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com/fotos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Alec Cordova wrote: # On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:14 AM, john wrote: # > # > my son has an '85 300D 3.0L TD and it just works. # > # # # That is a late model W123 in a nutshell. It's a shame they are now so old. # # Alec # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 10:09:28 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life I emailed my cousin who lives in Northern Illinois yesterday, letting him know that I need to charge up my a/c on my benz, it was 57 degrees and sunny yesterday... a/c wasn't blowing cold enough for me. ;) He didn't have too many kind words, said something about 20 degree weather or such, etc. ;) it's a bit brisk this morning... about 38 now... but it's supposed to warm up again to 54. when we lose our cloud cover temps drop at night, rise during the day... we should be in the mid-upper 40s with clouds... ;) all of my Diesels have done well this winter, even in that 15 degree cold snap everything started ok... must be the Amsoil synthetic oil, or good living or something like that... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://freegift.com http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com/fotos - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # It's main problem was it just didn't want to start in Wisconsin # winters. Even with fully functioning glow plugs. # # Starting in winter is kinda important to me... # # ;) # # Jim # # --- On Tue, 2/3/09, john wrote: # # > From: john # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > Cc: "diesel-benz list" # > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 11:14 AM # > well that's the problem... you should have tried # > an '82-'85 123 300D, or better a '90-'93 # > 2.5L TD 300D, # > or possibly an '87-88 3.0L TD 300D... all of those # > have a few quirks but overall are great. # > # > my son has an '85 300D 3.0L TD and it just works. # > # > my '91 300D has been a great car... only a few issues, # > if I sat down and figured out all that I've spent on # > repairs # > over the last few years, considered the fuel economy and # > such # > it's probably paid for itself many times over... # > # > I'd recommend trying another Diesel Benz... the 124 # > series... # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't # > rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://freegift.com # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # That Benz engine just doesn't excite me... I had SO # > much trouble # > # with my 240D that I don't think I ever want to own # > another one. # > # I just hang around here for the entertainment! # > # # > # ;) # > # # > # Jim # > # # > # --- On Tue, 2/3/09, john # > wrote: # > # # > # > From: john # > # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in my life # > # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > # > # > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > # > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:02 AM # > # > I'm not having that much influence... or # > you'd be # > # > stuffing # > # > a Benz motor in a Jeep Cherokee.... ;) # > # > # > # > I do have two nibbles on my little tug WITHOUT the # > engine. # > # > :) # > # > # > # > Found a dead WJ and several possible XJ # > candidates... :) # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't # > # > rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > http://freegift.com # > # > http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # > # > # Really?? I talked to someone who said that they # > # > redesigned the # > # > # rotor/hub relationship and made it slide over # > from the # > # > outside on # > # > # the 01's and later. Maybe that was # > misinformation? # > # > Either way, # > # > # when I put them back together I slather the # > mating # > # > surfaces of the # > # > # hub and control arm so they won't do that # > again. # > # > Next time should # > # > # go much faster. The calipers come off nicely. # > Overall # > # > I really # > # > # like my RAM. But I have been hanging around # > this list # > # > too long. # > # > # Too much exposure to John's bad influences. # > I'm # > # > currently contemplating # > # > # transplanting a Cummins into a Ford Excursion... # > # > # # > # > # ;) # > # > # # > # > # Jim # > # > # # > # > # > --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Kevin # > # > # > # > # > wrote: # > # > # > # > # > # > > From: Kevin # > # > # > # > > Subject: Re: [db] OT: The 2 Fords in # > my life # > # > # > > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > # > # > # > # > # > > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > # > # > > Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 4:50 # > PM # > # > # > > I can't remember how the 05's # > 4x4 # > # > setup is, # > # > # > but I # > # > # > > remember not liking it. # > # > # > > Since I got the 87 K30 4x4 dually back # > on the # > # > road, # > # > # > the # > # > # > > dodge doesn't get # > # > # > > driven much anymore. It's just too # > much of # > # > a pain # > # > # > to # > # > # > > deal with when something # > # > # > > goes wonky. # > # > # > > # > # > # > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 05:23:13AM # > -0800, Jim # > # > Hoffman # > # > # > > wrote: # > # > # > > > Excellent! Glad to hear that # > it's # > # > running # > # > # > well # > # > # > > again. # > # > # > > > # > # > # > > > I headed out yesterday and # > started # > # > disassembling # > # > # > the # > # > # > > front right # > # > # > > > brake system on my RAM. You have # > to pull # > # > the # > # > # > > hub/bearing assembly # > # > # > > > to get the rotor off. They # > mounted the # > # > rotor # > # > # > BEHIND # > # > # > > the hub and # > # > # > > > pushed the lug nuts through to # > hold it # > # > all # > # > # > together as # > # > # > > an assembly! # > # > # > > > What a PIA!! And the hub # > assembly is # > # > notorious # > # > # > for # > # > # > > rusting itself # > # > # > > > solid to the control arm. # > That's # > # > what # > # > # > happened on # > # > # > > the driver's side # > # > # > > > last year! Hopefully, taking # > what I # > # > learned last # > # > # > > year, this side # > # > # > > > will go more smoothly... # > # > # > > > # > # > # > > > ;) # > # > # # > # # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2990 **********************************