From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Tue Mar 3 21:03:33 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, March 4 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3014 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Lock question [db] nice drive home... Re: [db] Lock question Re: [db] Lock question [db] j10 or cj-10a Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:06:41 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] Lock question Ron, As I recall, there are two types of lock cylinder, and I believe the changeover happened around the time your car was made. Probably the most obvious way to tell is how your remove them. On the later ones, I believe the hole that the pin is stuck in goes in parallel to the key. On the earlier ones (the one I am familiar with), the pin goes in on the side of the cylinder accessible from the dash, perpendicular to a tangent line that runs parallel to the surface of the lock. I had to use a torx key to press it as no pin I created was rigid enough to depress the lock. I'll point out that if you absolutely cannot turn the lock, you're probably in about as good of shape as the global economy right now, with the main difference being that you can fix your problem by pulling the steering column and attacking it with a saw that can cut metal. Such implements aren't likely to work on the economy... I'll also point out when the 78 needed its changed, I could not find the correct procedure anywhere. All procedures I found dealt with the later version, which is probably what the parts bin is trying to sell you. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:41:20PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > The ignition lock cylinder of my European 1979 W123 300D has died. > > Performance Products Offer two different models for that year, and claim they > cannot tell me which one I need, as they do not have data for gray cars > (Grey ? mine is green) > > Does anyone here know how to choose the correct model ? > > Intriguinly, places like The Parts Bin > > offer only one model, coverong all 300Ds from 1977 to 1985. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] nice drive home... took these pictures on the way home tonight... found a garage door for my shop, the guy delivered it, we drove to my place on Lowell-Larimer Road! http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/03-Mar-02-mountains/ALL.html No Jeeps or Diesels were hurt in the capturing of these images... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:00:19 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] Lock question I use these guys for my W123 parts (I'm in Europe) http://www.gsfcarparts.com/ http://www.kmsparts.com/views_search.asp Regards, Stephen On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Kevin wrote: > Ron, > > As I recall, there are two types of lock cylinder, and I believe the > changeover > happened around the time your car was made. Probably the most obvious way > to tell is how your remove them. On the later ones, I believe the hole that > the > pin is stuck in goes in parallel to the key. On the earlier ones (the one > I am familiar with), the pin goes in on the side of the cylinder accessible > from the dash, perpendicular to a tangent line that runs parallel to the > surface of the lock. I had to use a torx key to press it as no pin I > created > was rigid enough to depress the lock. > > I'll point out that if you absolutely cannot turn the lock, you're probably > in about as good of shape as the global economy right now, with the main > difference being that you can fix your problem by pulling the steering > column and attacking it with a saw that can cut metal. Such implements > aren't > likely to work on the economy... > > I'll also point out when the 78 needed its changed, I could not find the > correct procedure anywhere. All procedures I found dealt with the later > version, which is probably what the parts bin is trying to sell you. > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:41:20PM -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > > The ignition lock cylinder of my European 1979 W123 300D has died. > > > > Performance Products Offer two different models for that year, and claim > they > > cannot tell me which one I need, as they do not have data for gray cars > > (Grey ? mine is green) > > > > Does anyone here know how to choose the correct model ? > > > > Intriguinly, places like The Parts Bin > > < > http://www.thepartsbin.com/catalog/?N=1668+11142+4294965438&Ntt=lock%20cylinder > > > > offer only one model, coverong all 300Ds from 1977 to 1985. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:56:26 -0300 From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" Subject: Re: [db] Lock question On Tuesday 03 March 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Stephen Rigley who wrote: > I use these guys for my W123 parts (I'm in Europe) I need addresses in the US of A: I have a mailbox in Miami, none in Europe ;-3) Cheers, Ron. - -- Somewhere, just out of sight, the unicorns are gathering. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:02:59 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: [db] j10 or cj-10a http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/select/compare.html the j10 wins in the looks department... just wonder if the j10 cab on the cj-10a frame with a flatbed would work... driveline or cab swap... neither are easy... which is the easier? :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3014 **********************************