From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Mar 19 11:05:00 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, March 19 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3027 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 [db] filters and lunch money Re: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane Re: [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane Re: [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane [db] Wheel tightening torque alu rims Re: [db] Wheel tightening torque alu rims RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 [db] Severely OT: My new web site Re: [db] Severely OT: My new web site Re: [db] Severely OT: My new web site Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 since you're trusting me, I thought I'd best find out the real numbers, if I can... owner's manual is in my 300D 10 miles from me right now, but found these links so far: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=107 http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoWheelTorque.dos#mercedes Mercedes Models with 14mm bolts 1994-05 110 ft-lbs All other models 1994-05 80 ft-lbs the owners manual I see for E320 in pdf says 110NM or 80ftlbs. your local tire company should have the specs for proper torque settings, or contact the dealership... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Carballo, Rico A. wrote: # Thanks, John. I'll take your numbers as Gospel truth :-) # # Unfortunately, the car didn't come with an owner's manual. # # # > # >will check the specs, but typically for aluminum alloy rims # >it'll be in the 100-105 ft lbs of torque, using a star # >pattern to tighten. # > # >check the owner's manual for the exact spec. # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:12:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] filters and lunch money click on the link, http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 search for your model year... they have a nice element that drops right in... :) shipped to your door... it'll also list all of your lube, wiper and filter needs, listing amsoil, and a couple other quality brands they stock as well... and if that fails, go to wagoneers.com and select the parts locator for amazon.com... eventually my site will earn me some lunch money... ;) :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Dan Black wrote: # john said: # {- I wouldn't recommend K&N to my worst enemy... they're miserable # {- to clean and don't filter well at all... they strain out butterflies # {- and small birds but let everything else through... # {- # {- get an Amsoil air filter or keep your paper element clean... # {- http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # # Whatcha got for the WJ? ;) # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # If Barbie is so popular, why do you have to buy her all of her friends? # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:15:18 -0500 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Re: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 80 ft-lbs sounds closer to what I remember for my 89 W124 as well. Then again, that was for alloy wheels and bolts. Since we're talking about a non-US model, you may have steel wheels, which may use a different wheel lug torque. Alec On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 2:06 PM, john wrote: > since you're trusting me, I thought I'd best find out the real numbers, > if I can... owner's manual is in my 300D 10 miles from me right now, but > found these links so far: > > http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/techpage.jsp?techid=107 > > > http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoWheelTorque.dos#mercedes > Mercedes > Models with 14mm bolts 1994-05 110 ft-lbs > All other models 1994-05 80 ft-lbs > > > the owners manual I see for E320 in pdf says 110NM or 80ftlbs. > > your local tire company should have the specs for proper torque > settings, or contact the dealership... > > john > > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Carballo, Rico A. wrote: > > # Thanks, John. I'll take your numbers as Gospel truth :-) > # > # Unfortunately, the car didn't come with an owner's manual. > # > # > # > > # >will check the specs, but typically for aluminum alloy rims > # >it'll be in the 100-105 ft lbs of torque, using a star > # >pattern to tighten. > # > > # >check the owner's manual for the exact spec. > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:29:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane does anyone know how much lifting range something like this has? Will it lift a barrel from the ground up to the bed? Can't tell from this picture... This might be easier for moving barrels around than the lift I have now... but I can't tell if there is enough travel to get a barrel off of terra firma to the back of the truck... anyone used one of these? I'm thinking it may be designed to lift a barrel a few inches off the truck bed so it can be swung over to a loading dock... john 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1647 Constructed with 5/16" steel for the boom and 1/2" steel plate on the base, this top quality unit will provide years of dependable service. * Boom length: 33-1/2" to 53" (4 positions) * Base swivels 360B0 * 3 ton hydraulic jack * Boom stores over wheel well when not in use 7-1/2" chain, 3/8" diameter with 5/8" latch-type hook Weight: 77 lbs. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:23:06 -0400 (EDT) From: ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net Subject: Re: [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane Yep, That's all it does, a couple of inches off the bed, does not have the range to lower to floor, unless you modify it with an electric winch at the the tip.......also read the fine print. My HorribleFreight shop crane lifts max of 2 tons at shortest extension of boom, at max it is 1/2 ton... very misleading to call it a 2 ton shop crane....but it is enough to save my back when taking out and inserting most engines I am likely to play with. Edward > does anyone know how much lifting range something like this has? > > Will it lift a barrel from the ground up to the bed? Can't > tell from this picture... This might be easier for moving barrels > around than the lift I have now... but I can't tell if there is > enough travel to get a barrel off of terra firma to the back of the > truck... anyone used one of these? > > I'm thinking it may be designed to lift a barrel a few inches > off the truck bed so it can be swung over to a loading dock... > > john > > > > > > 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane > > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1647 > > > Constructed with 5/16" steel for the boom and 1/2" steel plate on the > base, > this top quality unit will provide years of dependable service. > > * Boom length: 33-1/2" to 53" (4 positions) > * Base swivels 360B0 > * 3 ton hydraulic jack > * Boom stores over wheel well when not in use > > > 7-1/2" chain, 3/8" diameter with 5/8" latch-type hook > Weight: 77 lbs. > > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:46:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane thanx... was pretty sure that cylinder didn't have enough range to make this practical... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, ejpomeroy-at-qtm.net wrote: # Yep, # # That's all it does, a couple of inches off the bed, does not have the # range to lower to floor, unless you modify it with an electric winch at # the the tip.......also read the fine print. My HorribleFreight shop crane # lifts max of 2 tons at shortest extension of boom, at max it is 1/2 ton... # very misleading to call it a 2 ton shop crane....but it is enough to save # my back when taking out and inserting most engines I am likely to play # with. # # Edward # # > does anyone know how much lifting range something like this has? # > # > Will it lift a barrel from the ground up to the bed? Can't # > tell from this picture... This might be easier for moving barrels # > around than the lift I have now... but I can't tell if there is # > enough travel to get a barrel off of terra firma to the back of the # > truck... anyone used one of these? # > # > I'm thinking it may be designed to lift a barrel a few inches # > off the truck bed so it can be swung over to a loading dock... # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > 1/2 Ton Capacity Pickup Truck Crane # > # > http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=1647 # > # > # > Constructed with 5/16" steel for the boom and 1/2" steel plate on the # > base, # > this top quality unit will provide years of dependable service. # > # > * Boom length: 33-1/2" to 53" (4 positions) # > * Base swivels 360B0 # > * 3 ton hydraulic jack # > * Boom stores over wheel well when not in use # > # > # > 7-1/2" chain, 3/8" diameter with 5/8" latch-type hook # > Weight: 77 lbs. # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:52:42 -0400 From: Wiard Pless Subject: [db] Wheel tightening torque alu rims For the W124.128 the owner's manual states tightening torque: 110 Nm or 80 ft.lb. Wiard PS and for example for a Triumph TR6 the Repair Operations Manual states only 80 ft.lb. for steel rims Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:05 +0800 From: "Carballo, Rico A." Subject: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 Riding the brakes seems like something more for the automatic trannies. What is the wheel bolt torque for these cars? Rico ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Wheel tightening torque alu rims so where did I get the idea of 100 ft lbs???? well, not from a Grand Wagoneer, just looked, 75 ft lbs. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Wiard Pless wrote: # For the W124.128 the owner's manual states tightening torque: 110 Nm or 80 # ft.lb. Wiard # # PS and for example for a Triumph TR6 the Repair Operations Manual states only # 80 ft.lb. for steel rims # # Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:50:05 +0800 # From: "Carballo, Rico A." # Subject: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 # # Riding the brakes seems like something more for the automatic trannies. # What is the wheel bolt torque for these cars? # # Rico # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:55:27 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 Sounds like you have a stuck caliper that isn't applying the full force to the wheel, probably left front. J - ---------- Original Message ---------- From: john To: "Carballo, Rico A." Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net Subject: RE: [db] Contemplating an 87 300D W124 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 19:55:21 -0700 (PDT) pulling could be a number of things, seems odd that the pads are ok but the rotor worn... unless it's too thin or warped it could be turned down... if you don't ride the brakes the stock rotors should be fine... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Carballo, Rico A. wrote: # I did ask my mechanic about it again, on the necessity to replace them. # I did not see the rotors first-hand but he said they were "very # worn-down" and need to be replaced. I asked him several times if the # pads needed replacing as well but he said there's no need. I am # reasonably good as a motorcycle (BMW) DIY'er but not so much with MB # diesels, as you can now tell :-) # # Not sure if this is related but when I hit hard on the brakes of this # 300D (only sevral days old with me), it likes to swerve to the right. It # tells me that the right brakes are far stronger. Maybe a rotor issue? # # Rico # # # > # >Is it absolutely necessary to replace the rotors? Unless # >they are gouged or warped, they should be fine--unless you # >are planning on rallying. # >Slightly worn rotors work better than new--they have more # >braking surface. I have replaced exactly five rotors in over # >50 years of working on automobiles: one when my # >granddaughter dropped my 300D off the jack and bent a rear # >rotor and four recently on her Grand Cherokee because they # >were very warped--a design flaw, as I understand it. # ____________________________________________________________ Purify your water with professional water treatment. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsJahuxZ3Lv3AASSYrYv2NojuB6q gUazEFiwzS9Ti2zy20xif2JL0E/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:26:50 GMT From: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" Subject: [db] Severely OT: My new web site OK, this is about as offtopic as I've ever gone, but I wanted to let you know that I'm putting up my website. Finally! I've stalled on it for almost a year, and I just need to get it done. Pieces of it are up now, and I plan to have the rest up in the next few hours. Feel free to send me comments about it (good, bad, or ugly) but they should probably be off-list, since I don't need to provoke arguments about my website on the diesel list. Although, it does seem that the flame-war types have all left, or else mellowed out, which is nice. I should have the rest up by tonight. www.silverdollarsolutions.com Should I put a picture of Jeeves (my 300SDL) on the "About" page, just to make a pro-Diesel-Benz statement? 8^) Jason ____________________________________________________________ Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHF6ybfAzBvgUYPPmV24830CBM2 96EPsh5czLTxNp5INgjFgtVHQc/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:02:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Severely OT: My new web site # OK, this is about as offtopic as I've ever gone, but I wanted to let you know say what? I think if we were to rank OT folks you'd drop in right after me... :)o sure, maybe by a long ways... ;) MLC: got the down pipe for my 300D yesterday, $166.00 john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # OK, this is about as offtopic as I've ever gone, but I wanted to let you know # that I'm putting up my website. Finally! I've stalled on it for almost a year, # and I just need to get it done. # # Pieces of it are up now, and I plan to have the rest up in the next few hours. # Feel free to send me comments about it (good, bad, or ugly) but they should # probably be off-list, since I don't need to provoke arguments about my website # on the diesel list. Although, it does seem that the flame-war types have all # left, or else mellowed out, which is nice. # # I should have the rest up by tonight. # # www.silverdollarsolutions.com # # Should I put a picture of Jeeves (my 300SDL) on the "About" page, just to make # a pro-Diesel-Benz statement? 8^) # # Jason # # ____________________________________________________________ # Looking for insurance? Click to compare and save big. # http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2131/fc/BLSrjnsHF6ybfAzBvgUYPPmV24830CBM2 # 96EPsh5czLTxNp5INgjFgtVHQc/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:52:40 -0700 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] Severely OT: My new web site On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:26:50 GMT, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: > OK, this is about as offtopic as I've ever gone, but I wanted to let you Your "about" and "contact" pages are 404! A little more on-topic: How's this for a big Diesel... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qnDqSrSJQI - --chuck ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3027 **********************************