From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Apr 16 19:12:52 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, April 17 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3044 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Diesel info [db] Re: [CJ-10List] Re: what color for the tug? [db] Re: 6.2 diesel on vegetable oil? [db] what color for the tug? [db] W124 ign. lock tumblers Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 22:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: [db] Diesel info found a website (link below) with a nice summary of potential transplants: Engine Power (KW/HP-at-RPM) Torque (NM/LbFt-at-RPM) Weight LR 2.25L Petrol 52/70 -at- 4000 163/120 -at- 2000 204 Kg / 450 lbs LR 200 tdi 83/111 -at- 4000 198/146 -at- 1800 4 cyl 2.8L diesel, IVECO/PS10 8140.43P.3941 92/125-at-3600 RPM 275/203 -at- 1800 Nissan SD33 Diesel 6 cyl, no turbo 70/94 -at- 3600 217/160 -at- 1800 304 KG / 672 lbs dry Nissan SD33T Diesel 6 cyl, no intercooler 105/141 -at- 3800 255/188 -at- 2000 Nissan LD28 Diesel 6 cyl, no turbo 69/93 -at- 4400 200/148 -at- 2000 Nissan LD28Td Diesel 6 cyl, turbo 118HP -at- 4400 198 lbft -at- 2000 Nissan LD28Tdi Diesel 6 cyl, turbo with intercooler 124 HP -at- 4400 210 lbft -at- 2000 Cummins 6AT Diesel, 3.4L, 6 cyl , turbo 120hp-at-3,600 RPM 220 lbft -at-2000 RPM Isuzu 4BD1 (3.9L 4 cyl diesel) 66 / 86 -at- 3200 245/ 181 -at- 1900rpm 711 pounds dry Isuzu 4BD1-T (3.9L 4 cyl turboDiesel) 90/ 121-at- 3000 314/232 -at- 2200 721 pounds dry Mercedes OM616, 4cyl, 2.4 L early- 48/65-at-4200 late- 54/72 -at-4400 97 lbft -at- 2400 Perkins Prima. 4 cyl 60/80 -at-4500 RPM 154/114 -at- 2500 Mercedes/Chrysler Sprint van 2.7 Liter 5-cylinder 154HP 243-lb. ft. -at- 1600 . 2400 RPM http://www.expeditionlandrover.info/engine_conversion_diesel.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:03:56 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: [db] Re: [CJ-10List] Re: what color for the tug? - -J- the consensus is this is a great color! What's the NAPA code? :) it is very nice looking, have any larger images? I'm looking through other pictures in that directory, but they're all thumbnail sized... :) http://jeepsunlimited.com/storyimages/NewProjectPics230.jpg http://jeepsunlimited.com/storyimages/NewProjectPics229.jpg http://jeepsunlimited.com/storyimages/NewProjectPics232.jpg the fact that it's a flat encourages me to spray it myself, maybe even from a rattle can... hurry up, find that napa code. :) I'll run out and do it this weekend... can't be any worse than what I have now. :) I need to finish the tug project up, getting very close... my daughter is getting married in August so there will be a lot of running around taking place... AND, I may have found a nice Cummins 6AT for my '83 J10 Stepside... while the tug is very cool, my left arm and the door just aren't getting along very well... I like the short wheelbase, the height and the coolness factory, but the reality is my '83 J10 is a much more civilized, comfortable and just as cool as the tug... so the plan at this point is to get the J10 back together with the 4.2/T5 running 3.54s and get the body work and interior all setup the way I want, then swap in the 6AT with a solid AT, get it dialed in and then sell the tug and the trailer... but realistically that won't take place until probably Fall of 2010. So I'll probably keep using the tug through the winter and spring of 2010... unless of course all the pieces fall in place earlier and I get the J10 setup with a solid Diesel drivetrain earlier... there is always the possibility of keeping both toys... ;) thanx, john -o|||||o- city/hwy engine/trans/xfr - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1986 CJ-10A 20/? mpg 3.3L Diesel/tf727/np208 (the tug) 1991 Mercedes 300D (124) 29/39 mpg 2.5L Turbo Diesel/AT (Shadowfax) 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) 14/21 mpg 4.7L V8/45RFE/NV247 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1975 Jeep J10 long bed (SJ) hydraulic dump trailer - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1983 Jeep J10 Stepside (SJ) 14/19 mpg 4.2/T-5/NP208 (Superdawg)- under construction - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1980 Jeep J10 (SJ) parts donor for superdawg... 4.2/T-18/NP208 1967 Jeep J100 Panel (SJ) for sale 232/T85/dana 20 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, -J- wrote: # John, # # I painted my CJ-6 flat Desert Tan. Here is a pic: # # http://jeepsunlimited.com/storyimages/NewProjectPics232.jpg # # The paint code I used to have the paint mixed at Napa was the same one the military uses to spray Humvees that are headed to the sandbox. I actually considered spraying it with actual military surplus tan but I found out that the Humvee paint has some radar resistant material that is very hazardous and requires a fully enclosed paint booth with air tank set up for the painter. I was spraying in my buddies garage in a homemade paint boot with some standard air masks so that was out. I don't remember the paint code any more but I still really like the color. If you are really interested I could find the code for you. I have it written down some where. # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 14:38:36 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: [db] Re: 6.2 diesel on vegetable oil? as long as it's filtered you should be fine... I had no real issues with the 6.2/6.5 other than fuel lines... and if I got overzealous with my blending. :) issues: 1) the veggie oil blended will have minimal impact on rubber lines and seals, but could... it messed with a few o-rings on my benz. veggie oil run straight needs to be heated to about 160 deg F. 2) if you run biodiesel you absolutely WILL have trouble with rubber lines, return lines (on injectors) and any seals that are rubber. Easy fix: get the Viton kit from Heath Diesel or buy Viton tubing (not cheap) from one of the grease car type outfits, can't remember the name of them, just search on Viton. Replace the line going to the lift pump NOW. This one gave me absolute fits on omega. My 6.5 had been converted by the PO and had steel lines going into and out of the lift pump so it only needed the return lines replaced on the injectors, $34 kit or so. 3) if you blend, keep it at no more than 25% mix... if you go over you will have issues starting and could damage your engine because it may not spray well in the cylinder and could lead to damage. 4) progressive filtering is recommended, start at high micron count and work down to at least 10 to 20 microns before going into the stock filtering system... a clear bowl with water trap is recommended. (I need to add a racor setup on my tug so I can see what's going on, or in. ;) of course, as always, make sure french fries and onion rings do not enter the tank at any time... :) both WVO and BioDiesel have a wonderful aroma... I found a Pollack fuel valve on ebay for $55. A friend is parting a Suburban and I may attempt to install a 2nd tank in the tug that will hold 40 gals... :) may attempt to heat it and use it for WVO... we'll see... depending how much time I have for engineering fun this summer. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Kevin wrote: # Had a question or two for you since you ran your blazers on waste oil. # Did you have any problem with the injector pump or with engine (crankcase) oil # getting contaminated running vegetable oil in a 6.2 or a 6.5? I've heard of # guys in the ford realm having those problems, and the non turbo 6.9/7.3 has # the same IP as the 6.2 - a stanadyne DB2. # # Was toying with the idea with my K30, since it has three tanks (one where the # spare should go that pumps into the left side tank) already, just haven't # convinced myself it's a great idea. Doesn't look like it'd be hard to run a # line heater off one of the two side tanks, and doesn't look all that hard to # put a racor filter in place of the factory one. # # Thanks. # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:13:32 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: [db] what color for the tug? re: military grade desert tan paint... hey, I have an organic filtered respirator and would be doing this with plenty of ventilation, as in outside... ;) radar resistance if futile with sargeant slow though... unless it's at the bottom of a long, steep hill, in a school zone... :) with a tail wind... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 15 Apr 2009, Loeb wrote: # C'mon, John. Go for it! Why all the concern? I doubt that there's any # incontrovertible proof that that paint has hurt anyone. # > I actually considered spraying it with actual military surplus tan but I # > found out that the Humvee paint has some radar resistant material that is # > very hazardous and requires a fully enclosed paint booth with air tank set # > up for the painter. # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 21:57:45 -0400 From: Wiard Pless Subject: [db] W124 ign. lock tumblers As I encountered ignition lock problems with my 190s I did ordered a new one for the W124 although the old one was still working. To my surprise the old one came out in 2 pieces. The visible part had separated from the rest of the cylinder. My replacement came directly from a MB dealer in Germany. They were prepared to sell me the insert only - without keys - as I did not present the car registration. 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