From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Aug 6 07:30:52 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, August 6 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3124 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? 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IIRC # Waylon messed with one of the volvos. # # If you show up with a stack of Benjis, you might be able to knock him down # some. Know zero about the five banger. The four was gutless but reliable, the # six was somewhat the opposite. # # Now that I'm thinking about this, these might have two timing belts like the # volvo, one on each side of the engine. # # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:37:29AM -0700, john wrote: # > the rust doesn't look serious in the pictures... and unless the car breaks in two, I don't care... # > # > curious if this is the same engine used in the volvo, in which case I know to run in the opposite direction... ;) # > # > the car is over in eastern washington and the guy needs cash, he's right around 2k... # > # > # > # > details: # > # > Rare 1980 5000S diesel. 130,xxx original miles. It came from factory with a 5 cyl. volkswagen diesel engine. # > Good condition except has some rust, which is a darn shame since it runs and drives so nice. Need cash, must see to appreciate. # > The low price reflects the rust damage. Has a lot of options including 2 way sunroof. No serious offers refused. # > I get 32 mpg city 37 mpg highway, runs and drives great. # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:05:39 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the part of the 12 step program where your sponsor hacks your router so you can't search for cars for sale? :) On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john wrote: > got to think about this a bit... ask the question, what the heck am I doing looking at > ads on cl for anyway? ;) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:16:21 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? that's ok... there are too many routers involved... would take out half the everett complex, two cell carriers, several wireless systems and really irritate my wife that she couldn't access CL... :) just sitting at my desk I have access to several hundred computers, on several different subnets and in a wide variety of locations, not to mention two internet capable cell phones... I'm so out of control. :) It's pretty bad when you don't even need a computer to get on line. I can travel without bringing a laptop and pretty much get most things done... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the part of the 12 step program where # your sponsor hacks your router so you can't search for cars for sale? :) # # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john wrote: # > got to think about this a bit... ask the question, what the heck am I doing looking at # > ads on cl for anyway? ;) # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:21:14 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? No. It's bad when you take a couple days off craigslist, then your friends call you to tell you about some piece of $hit you can use for parts near you, you take down the number, call, buy it over the phone, then head down to get it. What's really bad is the last three of these I haven't been able to konk for parts - they only needed a couple hours of futzing to be a runner again. Good thing I have five acres, though I'm quickly getting to the point where I might have to cut another tree down to have more parking... I see two possible options to stopping this, but neither really are going to happen: - get a girlfriend - sell the car trailer Shoot, I'm looking at 32' goosenecks so I can yank two cars at once. I guess there really is no hope for me. On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:16:21PM -0700, john wrote: > that's ok... there are too many routers involved... would take out half > the everett complex, two cell carriers, several wireless systems and really > irritate my wife that she couldn't access CL... > > :) > > just sitting at my desk I have access to several hundred computers, on several different subnets > and in a wide variety of locations, not to mention two internet capable cell phones... > > I'm so out of control. :) It's pretty bad when you don't even need a computer to get on line. > I can travel without bringing a laptop and pretty much get most things done... :) > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > > # Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the part of the 12 step program where > # your sponsor hacks your router so you can't search for cars for sale? :) > # > # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john wrote: > # > got to think about this a bit... ask the question, what the heck am I doing looking at > # > ads on cl for anyway? ;) > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 15:33:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? doesn't the peoples republik of kalifornia enforce some kind of limitation on ownership? here they limit the number of cars I can SELL in a year to six without a dealer's license... and you can't get one of them unless you have a public showroom with substantial square footage... the dealers in this state have bought off the legistlature, they don't even need to deal with emissions... and if you trade in a car you reduce your sales tax... the deck is stacked in the dealer's favor.... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # No. It's bad when you take a couple days off craigslist, then your friends # call you to tell you about some piece of $hit you can use for parts near you, # you take down the number, call, buy it over the phone, then head down to get # it. # # What's really bad is the last three of these I haven't been able to konk for # parts - they only needed a couple hours of futzing to be a runner again. Good # thing I have five acres, though I'm quickly getting to the point where I might # have to cut another tree down to have more parking... # # I see two possible options to stopping this, but neither really are going to # happen: # - get a girlfriend # - sell the car trailer # # Shoot, I'm looking at 32' goosenecks so I can yank two cars at once. I guess # there really is no hope for me. # # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:16:21PM -0700, john wrote: # > that's ok... there are too many routers involved... would take out half # > the everett complex, two cell carriers, several wireless systems and really # > irritate my wife that she couldn't access CL... # > # > :) # > # > just sitting at my desk I have access to several hundred computers, on several different subnets # > and in a wide variety of locations, not to mention two internet capable cell phones... # > # > I'm so out of control. :) It's pretty bad when you don't even need a computer to get on line. # > I can travel without bringing a laptop and pretty much get most things done... :) # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # > # > # Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the part of the 12 step program where # > # your sponsor hacks your router so you can't search for cars for sale? :) # > # # > # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john wrote: # > # > got to think about this a bit... ask the question, what the heck am I doing looking at # > # > ads on cl for anyway? ;) # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jerome Kaidor Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? john wrote: > > doesn't the peoples republik of kalifornia enforce some kind of limitation > on ownership? here they limit the number of cars I can SELL in a year *** Wow, SELL? What a concept! I didn't know you could SELL em. I only know how to BUY'em. - Jerry "7 cars" Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 20:50:52 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Jerry "hold 'em" Kaidor... :) yeah... but selling them is often painful... was just thinking about a couple that I shouldn't have sold... then I have to walk myself through all the pain they caused, how they didn't do what I wanted, etc... in other words, eating my own popcorn. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Jerome Kaidor wrote: # john wrote: # > # > doesn't the peoples republik of kalifornia enforce some kind of limitation # > on ownership? here they limit the number of cars I can SELL in a year # # *** Wow, SELL? What a concept! I didn't know you could SELL em. I only # know how to BUY'em. # # - Jerry "7 cars" Kaidor # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:24:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? That was the FIRST question that came to my mind when I read the post. But I thought asking the question was pointless. You're beyond hope... ;) Jim - --- On Wed, 8/5/09, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? > To: "Kevin" > Cc: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:00 PM > got to think about this a bit... ask > the question, what the heck am I doing looking at > ads on cl for anyway? ;) > > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > > # Sort of. VW used a four banger. Audi added a cylinder, > Volvo added one more. > # The lube problems seemed to appear when they added the > sixth cylinder. IIRC > # Waylon messed with one of the volvos. > # > # If you show up with a stack of Benjis, you might be able > to knock him down > # some. Know zero about the five banger. The four was > gutless but reliable, the > # six was somewhat the opposite. > # > # Now that I'm thinking about this, these might have two > timing belts like the > # volvo, one on each side of the engine. > # > # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 11:37:29AM -0700, john wrote: > # > the rust doesn't look serious in the pictures... > and unless the car breaks in two, I don't care... > # > > # > curious if this is the same engine used in the > volvo, in which case I know to run in the opposite > direction... ;) > # > > # > the car is over in eastern washington and the guy > needs cash, he's right around 2k... > # > > # > > # > > # > details: > # > > # > Rare 1980 5000S diesel. 130,xxx original miles. It > came from factory with a 5 cyl. volkswagen diesel engine. > # > Good condition except has some rust, which is a > darn shame since it runs and drives so nice. Need cash, must > see to appreciate. > # > The low price reflects the rust damage. Has a lot > of options including 2 way sunroof. No serious offers > refused. > # > I get 32 mpg city 37 mpg highway, runs and drives > great. > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington > -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Ummm... you can NOT get on the Internet without a computer... It's just a question of what "kind" of computer you're using... ;) Jim - --- On Wed, 8/5/09, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? > To: "Kevin" > Cc: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:16 PM > that's ok... there are too many > routers involved... would take out half > the everett complex, two cell carriers, several wireless > systems and really > irritate my wife that she couldn't access CL... > > :) > > just sitting at my desk I have access to several hundred > computers, on several different subnets > and in a wide variety of locations, not to mention two > internet capable cell phones... > > I'm so out of control. :) It's pretty bad when > you don't even need a computer to get on line. > I can travel without bringing a laptop and pretty much get > most things done... :) > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > > # Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the part of the > 12 step program where > # your sponsor hacks your router so you can't search for > cars for sale? :) > # > # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john wrote: > # > got to think about this a bit... ask the question, > what the heck am I doing looking at > # > ads on cl for anyway? ;) > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 07:30:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? I'm REALLY surprised that option #3 hasn't occurred yet: - Municipality passes an ordinance forbidding "junk" cars. In my municipality all vehicles MUST be licensed, in drivable condition and on the driveway! Jim - --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Kevin wrote: > From: Kevin > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? > To: "john" > Cc: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 5:21 PM > No. It's bad when you take a couple > days off craigslist, then your friends > call you to tell you about some piece of $hit you can use > for parts near you, > you take down the number, call, buy it over the phone, then > head down to get > it. > > What's really bad is the last three of these I haven't been > able to konk for > parts - they only needed a couple hours of futzing to be a > runner again. Good > thing I have five acres, though I'm quickly getting to the > point where I might > have to cut another tree down to have more parking... > > I see two possible options to stopping this, but neither > really are going to > happen: > - get a girlfriend > - sell the car trailer > > Shoot, I'm looking at 32' goosenecks so I can yank two cars > at once. I guess > there really is no hope for me. > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:16:21PM -0700, john wrote: > > that's ok... there are too many routers involved... > would take out half > > the everett complex, two cell carriers, several > wireless systems and really > > irritate my wife that she couldn't access CL... > > > > > :) > > > > just sitting at my desk I have access to several > hundred computers, on several different subnets > > and in a wide variety of locations, not to mention two > internet capable cell phones... > > > > I'm so out of control. :) It's pretty bad > when you don't even need a computer to get on line. > > I can travel without bringing a laptop and pretty much > get most things done... :) > > > > ----- > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Snohomish, Washington > -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > > > > # Because, like me, you haven't gotten to the > part of the 12 step program where > > # your sponsor hacks your router so you can't > search for cars for sale? :) > > # > > # On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM -0700, john > wrote: > > # > got to think about this a bit... ask the > question, what the heck am I doing looking at > > # > ads on cl for anyway? ;) > > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3124 **********************************