From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Aug 6 13:30:45 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, August 6 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3126 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? home owners associations are like this too... and, it's the same people who think we shouldn't talk on cell phones, but they themselves can't talk on cell phones and drive and don't think that any one else can either... so they want rules made because they don't think others should do this or that... instead of just simply using existing laws and holding people responsible... driving while distracted is already a law... I can see how a cop could use that to pull over that soccer mom driving the barge/suv around cutting into traffic without looking while holding the cell phone in left hand, oddly enough, a lot of these gals are blonde... is there a correlation? :) either way, just another nanny state thing because some people act irresponsibly... because some people spill their coffee should there be a law that all cups have covers? of course out here they try to make the claim that these piles of dead cars are places that part out stolen vehicles, sell drugs and illegal guns... despite having nearly half the county has yards with dead vehicles and only one or two such "busts", that make the news and hold local attention for days, ever happen... just another way for the nosey, busy-body old lady types who don't want to see anyone get away with anything... let people be free to do what they think they are capable of, and when they screw up, nail 'em with the existing laws and hold them accountable for the damage they caused... making yet another law doesn't help any one except bring us closer to a total police state... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # You can keep them as long as they are kept inside. You need a large # garage or # storage building. The whole silliness revolves around the # guise that # unsightly yards lowers the surrounding property values. # REALLY it's all about # cranky people with too much time on their # hands that want to control what # other people can or cannot do! # It pisses me off! To me, if you don't like it, # look the other # direction! # # Jim # # --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Stephen Rigley # wrote: # # > From: Stephen Rigley # > # Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # # > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > Date: Thursday, August # 6, 2009, 10:43 AM # > What??? That is ridiculous!! # > # > So.. when does a car # become not a car?? As in.. how do you # > keep your "spare" # > cars? Do they need # to be cut in half? # > Or.. can you call them "a collection of well arranged # > # spares" if wheels and # > or engine is removed? # > # > All vehicles.. I just don't # get it.. so effectively they # > are banning the # > ownership of a car that is # immobile? How long can your car # > be waiting on # > parts before you have # enforcement issues? Actually.. how do # > they enforce # > this? Do Police check # out "suspiciously dusty" cars? # > # > # > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jim # Hoffman # > wrote: # > # > > I'm REALLY surprised that # option #3 hasn't occurred # > yet: # > > # > > - Municipality # > > passes an # ordinance forbidding "junk" cars. # > > # > > In my municipality all vehicles # > > # MUST be licensed, in drivable # > > condition and on the driveway! # > > # > > Jim # > # > # > > --- On Wed, # > > 8/5/09, Kevin # > wrote: # > > # > > # > From: Kevin # > > # > > > Subject: Re: [db] OT: # question on audi / # > vw # > > Diesel? # > > > To: "john" # > > # > Cc: "diesel-benz list" # > > # > > > Date: Wednesday, # August 5, 2009, 5:21 PM # > > > No. It's # > > bad when you take a couple # > > > # days off craigslist, then your friends # > > > call you # > > to tell you about # some piece of $hit you can use # > > > for parts near you, # > > > you # > > take # down the number, call, buy it over the phone, # > then # > > > head down to get # > # > > # > > it. # > > > # > > > What's really bad is the last three of these I # > # haven't been # > > > able to # > > konk for # > > > parts - they only needed a # couple hours of # > futzing to be a # > > > # > > runner again. Good # > > > thing I # have five acres, though I'm quickly # > getting to # > > the # > > > point where I # might # > > > have to cut another tree down to have more # > > parking... # > > > # > # > > I see two possible options to stopping this, but # > neither # > > > # > > # really are going to # > > > happen: # > > > - get a girlfriend # > > > - sell # the car # > > trailer # > > > # > > > Shoot, I'm looking at 32' goosenecks so I can # > yank two cars # > > > at # > > once. I guess # > > > there really is no hope for # me. # > > > # > > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at # > > 03:16:21PM -0700, john wrote: # > > # > > that's ok... there are too many routers # > > involved... # > > > would take # out half # > > > > the everett complex, two cell carriers, # > > several # > > > # wireless systems and really # > > > > irritate my wife that she couldn't # > > # access CL... # > > > # > > > > # > > > > :) # > > > > # > > > > just sitting at my desk # I have access to # > > several # > > > hundred computers, on several different # subnets # > > > > and in a wide # > > variety of locations, not to mention two # > > # > internet capable cell phones... # > > > > # > > > > I'm so out of control. :) # It's # > pretty bad # > > > when you don't even need a # > > computer to get on # line. # > > > > I can travel without bringing a laptop and # > pretty # > > much # > > # > get most things done... :) # > > > > # > > > > ----- # > > > > # > > > # > > # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > > # > > > Snohomish, Washington # > > > -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # > # mold # > > > # > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > > > # http://creationwiki.org # > > > # > > > http://johnmeister.com # http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > > > > # > > > # > > # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > > > # > # > > > > # > > > > On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # > > > > # > > > > # Because, # like me, you # > > haven't gotten to the # > > > part of the 12 step program where # > > > > # your sponsor # > > hacks your router so you can't # > > > search for # cars for sale? :) # > > > > # # > > > > # # > > On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 03:00:15PM # -0700, john # > > > wrote: # > > > > # > got to think # > > about this a bit... ask # the # > > > question, what the heck am I doing looking at # > > > # > > > # > ads # on cl for anyway? ;) # > > > > # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? And who defines "junkyard"? You? There enlies the problem. - --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > From: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? > To: "Jim Hoffman" > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:46 AM > On Thursday 06 August 2009, my > mailbox was graced by a missive > from Jim Hoffman > who wrote: > > > It pisses me off! To me, if you don't like it, > > look the other > > direction! > > One can understand that some people do not care to have a > junkyard across the > street from their house. > > If you want to keep junk, or practice any other activity > that may distress the > onlookers, please do it behind closed doors (and between > consenting > adults ;-3) > > Cheers, > > Ron. > -- > You cannot help the poor by > destroying the rich. > > You cannot strengthen the weak by > weakening the strong. > > You cannot bring about prosperity > by discouraging thrift. > You cannot lift the wage earner up > by pulling the wage payer down. > You cannot further the brotherhood > of man by inciting class hatred. > You cannot build character and > courage by taking away > > people's initiative and > independence. > > > You cannot help people permanently > by doing for them, > > what they could and should do for > themselves. > > > > > -- Abraham Lincoln > > > > > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 10:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? the county says more than 20 cars that are visible from the street... or "excessive" traffic by people buying parts... yes, subjective... eye sores are not pleasant, that's why I think fence requirements are reasonable. not having any vehicles at all is not. that's what many cities try to enforce... and they are in contradiction to the laws that actually try to promote automotive restoration and collection... some folks are just total slobs... and can devalue a neighborhood... had some neighbors that were known drug dealers and had tons of cats and dogs, junk in their yard and lots of traffic.... the police are there all the time, but it didn't stop... they had guys OD there and die... the cops would camp out in their drive and make arrests... didn't help... you know what solved the problem? my neighbor bought the house and has been remodeling it... he's dealing with residual "visitors"... some of these folks think there's still a dealer there... will go around his gates... I've stopped several, taken pictures and called my neighbors who come up and read these folks the riot act... it's starting to diminish... the house is right on the highway, even while all that was going on we were never bothered by any of it... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # And who defines "junkyard"? You? There enlies the problem. # # # --- On Thu, # 8/6/09, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: # # > From: # Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: # question on audi / vw Diesel? # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > # Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 11:46 AM # > On Thursday 06 August 2009, my # > # mailbox was graced by a missive # > from Jim Hoffman # > # who wrote: # > # > > It pisses me off! To me, if you don't like it, # > > look the # other # > > direction! # > # > One can understand that some people do not care to # have a # > junkyard across the # > street from their house. # > # > If you want to # keep junk, or practice any other activity # > that may distress the # > # onlookers, please do it behind closed doors (and between # > consenting # > # adults ;-3) # > # > Cheers, # > # > Ron. # > -- # > You cannot help the poor by # > destroying the rich. # > # > You cannot strengthen the # weak by # > weakening the strong. # > # > You cannot bring # about prosperity # > by discouraging thrift. # > You cannot lift # the wage earner up # > by pulling the wage payer down. # > You cannot # further the brotherhood # > of man by inciting class hatred. # > You cannot # build character and # > courage by taking away # > # > people's # initiative and # > independence. # > # > # > You # cannot help people permanently # > by doing for them, # > # > # what they could and should do for # > themselves. # > # > # # > # > # > -- Abraham Lincoln # > # # > # > # > # > -- # http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:32:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? And who defines "junk"? You? I think I see a pattern here.... Your idea of "junk" and my idea of "junk" may be two different things. Who says your definition is right? - --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > From: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? > To: "Jim Hoffman" > Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 1:48 PM > On Thursday 06 August 2009, my > mailbox was graced by a missive > from Jim Hoffman > who wrote: > > > And who defines "junkyard"? You? There enlies the > problem. > > No problem: a yard with junk visible from the street or > from neighbouring > property is a junkyad. > > Cheers, > > Ron. > -- > J'ai toujours fait une prihre ` Dieu, > qui est fort courte. La voici : > "Mon Dieu, rendez nos ennemis bien > ridicules !" Dieu m'a exauci > > > > -- > Voltaire > > > > > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 12:47:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? good fences make good neighbors... it appears to be a universal truth... my goodness, we've come a long way on this OT issue... from asking about the 5 cylinder Audi/VW Diesel to international disputes involving fences and local ordinances... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # And who defines "junk"? You? I think I see a pattern here.... # Your idea of # "junk" and my idea of "junk" may be two different # things. Who says your # definition is right? # # # --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI # wrote: # # > From: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI # # > Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw # Diesel? # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # > Date: Thursday, August 6, # 2009, 1:48 PM # > On Thursday 06 August 2009, my # > mailbox was graced by a # missive # > from Jim Hoffman # > who wrote: # > # > > And who # defines "junkyard"? You? There enlies the # > problem. # > # > No problem: a yard # with junk visible from the street or # > from neighbouring # > property is a # junkyad. # > # > Cheers, # > # > Ron. # > -- # > J'ai toujours fait une prihre ` # Dieu, # > qui est fort courte. La voici : # > "Mon Dieu, rendez nos ennemis # bien # > ridicules !" Dieu m'a exauci # > # > # > # # > -- # > Voltaire # > # > # > # > # > -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 16:24:35 -0400 From: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" Subject: Re: [db] OT: question on audi / vw Diesel? On Thursday 06 August 2009, my mailbox was graced by a missive from Jim Hoffman who wrote: > And who defines "junk"? If it looks like junk, tastes like junk...... Cheers, Ron. - -- There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. --P.J. O'Rourke -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3126 **********************************