From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 31 12:03:01 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, August 31 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3138 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] multitasking history [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Re: xj: Re: Funny video about fuel economy and Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 01:19:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] multitasking history http://comics.com/free_range/2009-08-31/ ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:59:14 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil kevin, oh the horrors... # Warning, the pictures are incredibly graphic. # http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 valvoline, pennzoil and quaker state... been there seen that on several engines... just say NO to dino... any synthetic will be better... and of course you know my preference. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # Picked up a 258 to rob its rotating assembly and build a stroker. Engine # supposedly ran, but smoked a little. Judging by the abundance of new parts on # the engine, it was obvious someone tried to get it to run better but wasn't # happy when he ran out of ideas. # Warning, the pictures are incredibly graphic. http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:15:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil All I've used in gas engines for the past 35 years is Pennzoil. 100's of thousands of miles and not a problem. I swear by it. I'd suspect improper change intervals, etc. before Pennzoil AND *I* don't change my oil very religiously either. So, possibly there is another cause to the problem? ;) Jim - --- On Mon, 8/31/09, diesel john wrote: > From: diesel john > Subject: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil > To: "Kevin" > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:59 PM > kevin, oh the horrors... > > # Warning, the pictures are incredibly graphic. > # http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 > > valvoline, pennzoil and quaker state... been there seen > that on > several engines... just say NO to dino... any > synthetic will > be better... and of course you know my preference. ;) > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > > # Picked up a 258 to rob its rotating assembly and build a > stroker. Engine > # supposedly ran, but smoked a little. Judging by the > abundance of new parts on > # the engine, it was obvious someone tried to get it to > run better but wasn't > # happy when he ran out of ideas. > # > Warning, the pictures are incredibly graphic. > http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:21:03 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil open your engine up and let's look at it... I doubt it's going to look very good... there will be a lot of deposits, varnish and gunk in there... really... I've taken apart a lot of engines in the last 40 years... if you've warmed up your engine and changed it regularly it won't be as bad as this one, but it won't be clean either. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # All I've used in gas engines for the past 35 years is Pennzoil. # 100's of # thousands of miles and not a problem. I swear by it. # I'd suspect improper # change intervals, etc. before Pennzoil AND # *I* don't change my oil very # religiously either. So, possibly # there is another cause to the problem? ;) # Jim # # --- On Mon, 8/31/09, diesel john wrote: # # > From: # diesel john # > Subject: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil # > To: # "Kevin" # > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:59 PM # > # kevin, oh the horrors... # > # > # Warning, the pictures are incredibly graphic. # > # http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 # > # > valvoline, pennzoil and quaker # state... been there seen # > that on # > several engines... just say NO to # dino... any # > synthetic will # > be better... and of course you know my # preference. ;) # > # > # > ----- # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # > # > # Picked up a 258 to rob its # rotating assembly and build a # > stroker. Engine # > # supposedly ran, but # smoked a little. Judging by the # > abundance of new parts on # > # the engine, # it was obvious someone tried to get it to # > run better but wasn't # > # happy # when he ran out of ideas. # > # # > Warning, the pictures are incredibly # graphic. # > http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:20:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil Hmmmm.... with the miles I get from each car why would I care what it looks like inside? All I care is that it keep running and running a LONG time, which they do. I don't know why I should care... ;) Jim - --- On Mon, 8/31/09, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil > To: "Jim Hoffman" > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 1:21 PM > open your engine up and let's look at > it... > > I doubt it's going to look very good... there will be > a lot > of deposits, varnish and gunk in there... > really... > > I've taken apart a lot of engines in the last 40 years... > > if you've warmed up your engine and changed it regularly it > won't > be as bad as this one, but it won't be clean either. > > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # All I've used in gas engines for the past 35 years is > Pennzoil. > # 100's of > # thousands of miles and not a problem. I swear by > it. > # I'd suspect improper > # change intervals, etc. before Pennzoil AND > # *I* don't change my oil very > # religiously either. So, possibly > # there is another cause to the problem? ;) > # Jim > # > # --- On Mon, 8/31/09, diesel john > wrote: > # > # > From: > # diesel john > # > Subject: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil > # > To: > # "Kevin" > # > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:59 PM > # > > # kevin, oh the horrors... > # > > # > # Warning, the pictures are incredibly > graphic. > # > # http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 > # > > # > valvoline, pennzoil and quaker > # state... been there seen > # > that on > # > several engines... just say NO to > # dino... any > # > synthetic will > # > be better... and of course you know my > # preference. ;) > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > http://creationwiki.org > # > > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: > # > > # > # Picked up a 258 to rob its > # rotating assembly and build a > # > stroker. Engine > # > # supposedly ran, but > # smoked a little. Judging by the > # > abundance of new parts on > # > # the engine, > # it was obvious someone tried to get it to > # > run better but wasn't > # > # happy > # when he ran out of ideas. > # > # > # > Warning, the pictures are > incredibly > # graphic. > # > http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:28:54 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil hey, if it works for you, that's all that matters. :) really... better not to know... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Hmmmm.... with the miles I get from each car why would I care what # it looks # like inside? All I care is that it keep running and running # a LONG time, # which they do. # # I don't know why I should care... ;) # # # Jim # # --- On Mon, # 8/31/09, john wrote: # # > From: john # > # Subject: Re: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil # > To: "Jim Hoffman" # # > Cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # > Date: Monday, August 31, # 2009, 1:21 PM # > open your engine up and let's look at # > it... # > # > I doubt # it's going to look very good... there will be # > a lot # > of deposits, varnish # and gunk in there... # > really... # > # > I've taken apart a lot of engines in # the last 40 years... # > # > if you've warmed up your engine and changed it # regularly it # > won't # > be as bad as this one, but it won't be clean either. # > # > # > # > ----- # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://creationwiki.org # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # > # > # All I've used in gas engines # for the past 35 years is # > Pennzoil. # > # 100's of # > # thousands of miles and # not a problem. I swear by # > it. # > # I'd suspect improper # > # change # intervals, etc. before Pennzoil AND # > # *I* don't change my oil very # > # # religiously either. So, possibly # > # there is another cause to the problem? # ;) # > # Jim # > # # > # --- On Mon, 8/31/09, diesel john # # > wrote: # > # # > # > From: # > # diesel john # # > # > Subject: [db] Re: I hate pennzoil # > # > To: # > # # "Kevin" # > # > Date: Monday, August 31, 2009, 12:59 # PM # > # > # > # kevin, oh the horrors... # > # > # > # > # Warning, the # pictures are incredibly # > graphic. # > # > # # http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 # > # > # > # > valvoline, pennzoil and # quaker # > # state... been there seen # > # > that on # > # > several engines... # just say NO to # > # dino... any # > # > synthetic will # > # > be better... and # of course you know my # > # preference. ;) # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # # > # > # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # > # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where # > # > Jeeps don't rust, they # mold # > # > # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > # http://creationwiki.org # > # > # > # http://johnmeister.com # http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > # > # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # > # > # > # > # > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, Kevin wrote: # > # > # > # > # Picked up # a 258 to rob its # > # rotating assembly and build a # > # > stroker. Engine # > # # > # supposedly ran, but # > # smoked a little. Judging by the # > # > # abundance of new parts on # > # > # the engine, # > # it was obvious someone # tried to get it to # > # > run better but wasn't # > # > # happy # > # when he # ran out of ideas. # > # > # # > # > Warning, the pictures are # > incredibly # > # # graphic. # > # > http://www.punk.net/~kevin/wiped-258 # > # > # # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: Funny video about fuel economy and Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg jim was saying they get about 23 in town... my worst Mercedes Diesel did better than that... my current one gets around 30 in town, better on the freeway... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 31 Aug 2009, ernest breakfield wrote: # ignoring all the evil associated with the production of the batteries, # (and what happens to them after they're used up!) people still wonder # why Prii drivers are so commonly called "Hybridiots",... ;-) # # # cheers! # e # # # john wrote: # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmxUsGiGp3w # > # > ya gotta love top gear... :) # > like the fact that the bmw got 19 mpg and the Pry-us only 17 mpg... # > # > these were good too: # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqUBsCo8pEM # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdgMrdY8q_I # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Sat, 29 Aug 2009, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # > # > # It's because of what TopGear's Richard Hammond called "daft emissions laws." # > # When a diesel engine runs at 100% efficiency (or as close as can be gotten) as # > # yours pretty much does, it produces what is now considered an unacceptable # > # amount of oxides of nitrogen. These engines are not allowed to run as # > # efficiently as they otherwise might by the computers that are programmed to # > # comply with paranoid emissions laws. # > # # > # Here's a funny video about how green the green car is.......thanks Jeremy. # > # # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmxUsGiGp3w # > # # > # J # > # # > # ---------- Original Message ---------- # > # From: Bruce Caruthers # > # To: diesel-benz list # > # Subject: Re: [db] 2008 bluetec mpg # > # Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:50:44 -0700 # > # # > # Well, in fairness, the '91 and this one are on different # > # measures, aren't they? Didn't the mileage schema get changed # > # a few years back? # > # # > # Still not particularly impressive, though. # > # # > # Our '93 gets 29-ish all local, 31 regularly, and 40-46 on # > # some highway trips. # > # # > # -bkc # > # Lynnwood, WA # > # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] # > # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT # > # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] # > # # > # # > # On Thu Aug 27, 2009, John Meister wrote: # > # > # > # > only 23 mpg city... 32 hwy, the 2008 bluetec... # > # > my '91 was rated 26/34, get 30 in town... # > # > # > # > # > # http://www.mblynnwood.com/inventoryDisplay.aspx?s=specials_detail&year=2008&m # > # ake=Mercedes-Benz&model=E320%20BlueTec%204dr%20Sdn%203.0L%20RWD&inv=264&vin=W # > # DBUF22X98B317926&total=11&pos=1¤t=1&size=15 # > # > # > # > # > # > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- # > # > From: Mercedes-Benz of Lynnwood # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > You have received the alternative text version of an HTML message. 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