From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Mon Dec 7 15:37:13 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, December 7 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3185 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: [db] W124 ball joint sealant Re: [db] Lower Control Arm [db] biodiesel and 16 degrees F. [db] RE: biodiesel and 16 degrees F. Re: [db] RE: biodiesel and 16 degrees F. [db] WSJ - Small-Engine Makers Voice Worry As EPA Weighs New Ethanol Rule (fwd) Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 18:34:18 -0500 From: Steve Morelen Subject: RE: [db] W124 ball joint sealant This car won't be in service very much longer so I'm starting to economize on non-safety items when making repairs. A cursory search on the internet showed a dealer in FL selling the stuff for nearly $20. I haven't asked my local dealer as they are always horribly high priced. I tried to purchase the bolts for securing the ball joint stud to the steering knuckle from them. Was told they don't show any inventory history and the cost would be $7 for a bolt! //steve > Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:25:04 -0800 > From: john@wagoneers.com > To: smorelen@hotmail.com > CC: diesel-benz@digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] W124 ball joint sealant > > why substitute? isn't it available? > > one thing I've learned in working on both jeeps(newer ones) and > mercedes... substitution is a very bad idea... on older amc jeeps > it's to be expected... :) > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 6 Dec 2009, Steve Morelen wrote: > > # Hello All- > # > # I'm replacing ball joints on an '87 300D. I need to find an acceptable > # substitute for the MB sealing compound that is used to fill the split > # joint where the bottom of the steering knuckle is attached to the post > # that protrudes from the top of the ball joint. I have some ideas but > # I'm worried about the heat-handling capabilities of commonly available > # sealants/caulks. Any suggestions? > # > # > # > # TIA- > # > # Steve Morelen > # > # Raleigh, NC > # _________________________________________________________________ > # Windows Live Hotmail gives you a free,exclusive gift. > # http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci > # d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_7:092009 > # _________________________________________________________________ Chat with Messenger straight from your Hotmail inbox. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/hotmail_bl1/hotmail_bl1.aspx?oci d=PID23879::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-ww:WM_IMHM_4:092009 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:36:19 -0500 From: Marc Z Subject: Re: [db] Lower Control Arm Hello fellow Benzers.... : - ) It seems that the bushings on the right side lower control arm are worn out on my '83 300D T. I see a bit of rust dust on the outside of the inner joint. Is the control arm easy enough to rebuild? Thanks in advance, Marc Z in NC ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:15:09 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: [db] biodiesel and 16 degrees F. my '86 cj-10a running on 100% BioDiesel will indeed start at 16 degrees... but after three startings it would quit in a few seconds. so I hopped in the 4.7L v8 gas WJ and fired it up, it's on the defrost cycle out in the driveway right now... don't have a decent ice scraper around here. :) the temp readout on the wj says 16 degrees... I believe it. no clouds=cold I wonder if mark's '85 300D running on #2 Diesel will be ok... my '91 300D started up fine yesterday in the 20's... added 6 gals of #2 to the biodiesel last night... maybe I should have dropped a gal of unleaded in as well. I don't think I could thin the tug's fuel at this point, I just topped off the tank the other night... all BioDiesel... I thought it was supposed to snow last Friday, in which case the temps would have been in the 30s. oh well... next challenge is getting out of the frost covered driveway... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:24:04 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: [db] RE: biodiesel and 16 degrees F. sure it wasn't heavy frost? I woke up Saturday am to what looked like snow, but it was just a very heavy frost... http://fotomeister.us/2009/12-Dec-05-frosty-morning/ALL.html I didn't try the '91 300D, it'll probably be fine, has around 40% #2... and built-in heaters... it's always done fine in cold weather... the WJ didn't have the window defrosted until I was half way to work... :) I think the tug will be sitting until the snow flies or rain resumes this Friday... I filled the 20 gallon tank with 100% BioDiesel... Even in the mid-40s trying to pump BioDiesel is an issue... Diesel flows much easier... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 7 Dec 2009, Joe Hughes wrote: # 17 Degrees here. After reading you email I figured this was a good time to # test out both diesels. The 6BT in the Dodge needed a little go pedal, idle # rough for about 10 seconds, while belching smoke, then idle and ran fine. # That tank of fuel has about 25% Kerosene and the rest is #2. # # The 4BT in the Willys PU turned over for about a half second, but that was # all the battery had in her. I haven't driven it in a couple months, so # guess I need to throw that battery on the charger. # # We got a dusting on Friday night, which surprised me since it was blue skies # all day. # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj@digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj@digest.net] On Behalf Of diesel # john # Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:15 AM # To: undisclosed-recipients: # Subject: fsj: biodiesel and 16 degrees F. # # my '86 cj-10a running on 100% BioDiesel will indeed start at 16 degrees... # but after three startings it would quit in a few seconds. # # so I hopped in the 4.7L v8 gas WJ and fired it up, it's on the defrost cycle # out in the driveway right now... don't have a decent ice scraper around # here. :) # # the temp readout on the wj says 16 degrees... I believe it. no clouds=cold # # I wonder if mark's '85 300D running on #2 Diesel will be ok... my '91 300D # started up fine yesterday in the 20's... added 6 gals of #2 to the biodiesel # last night... maybe I should have dropped a gal of unleaded in as well. # # I don't think I could thin the tug's fuel at this point, I just topped off # the tank the other night... all BioDiesel... I thought it was supposed # to snow last Friday, in which case the temps would have been in the 30s. # # oh well... next challenge is getting out of the frost covered driveway... ;) # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:42:31 -0600 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Re: [db] RE: biodiesel and 16 degrees F. Not much cause to acquire an ice scraper in central Texas either. I've found that a CD jewel case can be surprisingly effective, especially once the defroster has loosened the edges. Alec > > the WJ didn't have the window defrosted until I was half way to work... :) > > # > # so I hopped in the 4.7L v8 gas WJ and fired it up, it's on the defrost cycle > # out in the driveway right now... don't have a decent ice scraper around > # here. :) > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:36:47 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: [db] WSJ - Small-Engine Makers Voice Worry As EPA Weighs New Ethanol Rule (fwd) older engines too will have troubles... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Peter Samson FYI if you own a boat, or anything else with a small gasoline engine (even a generator). Peter http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704825504574580291347674418.html Small-Engine Makers Voice Worry As EPA Weighs New Ethanol Rule By MARK LONG NEW YORK--Boaters and small-engine-industry groups are worried their concerns about engine damage will be overlooked as the Environmental Protection Agency considers allowing as much as 15% ethanol in the nation's gasoline. Since fuel with an ethanol content of as much as 10% has been introduced across the U.S. in recent years, boaters have complained of problems. Now they are lobbying the EPA to test the effects of ethanol on small engines--in addition to the testing being done on car and truck engines--as the regulator weighs increasing the ethanol content. "We don't have the science on it," said Margaret Podlich, vice president of government affairs of the Boat Owners Association of the United States. "We don't know what this will do to marine engines." Backers of allowing additional ethanol in the fuel mix cite reduced greenhouse-gas emissions, the possibility of job creation and the need to meet a federal mandate to increase use of biofuels. The EPA has postponed a final decision on raising the ethanol limit until next year amid concerns among oil companies and vehicle makers. In an emailed statement, the agency said it would look at all data submitted to it for both on-road and nonroad sources, and that testing smaller engines, such as marine outboards, was being discussed. As a solvent, ethanol frees up the gunk in fuel tanks and engines that can clog carburetors and fuel lines. The blended fuel can also cause problems if it separates when stored for lengthy periods--as boats commonly are--creating safety worries, especially when boats are used offshore. Chris Thorne, a spokesman for the ethanol-industry group Growth Energy, said boaters "have a legitimate concern" but noted that the EPA wasn't considering mandating use of 15% ethanol, adding that consumers would have time to prepare and that the different fuel blends would be clearly labeled. "This is not going to be a surprise to anybody," Mr. Thorne said. "We have been through the process of changing fuel systems before." The Outdoor Power Equipment Institute, which represents makers of lawn mowers, chainsaws and other power gear, said it is "deeply concerned," since educating millions of consumers to prevent potentially dangerous misfueling would be "a daunting task." Small-engine makers are particularly concerned about the potential liability associated with accidents or strandings because of engine failures caused by extra ethanol in the fuel mix. Mat Dunn, legislative director of the National Marine Manufacturers Association, said he welcomed the EPA's additional testing but is worried about potential boating-safety problems and complicating the fuel market for consumers. Having ethanol in the fuel "was a disaster for us," said Bill Bahen, executive director of Hudson River Community Sailing in Manhattan. He said the six gasoline outboard engines purchased new last year for the nonprofit sailing school and club's sailboats broke down repeatedly with carburetor and fuel-line problems, and were never all running at the same time this year, disrupting activities. ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3185 **********************************