From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Thu Dec 31 05:43:21 2009 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, December 31 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3206 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] tug finally sold, J10 not finished, now what? RE: Re: [db] tug finally sold, J10 not finished, now what? [db] 4.0L swap... so close... need help... [db] Trouble shooting the Chrysler Turbo encapulator [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:39:47 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] tug finally sold, J10 not finished, now what? you two have convinced me to stick with my benz and my jeeps... :) no ford in my future... I'm challenged enough with the engineering of jeeps and mercedes, don't need a third vector of challenges... thank you. So, now, I need to go reassemble a Grand Cherokee around it's radiator... ;) Got the dead 4.0 out last night... now I need to locate all the bolts and pieces, figure out how to attach the good 4.0 to my shop crane (loaned my engine leveler bar to a friend and it never found it's way home... all suspects deny ever seeing it... :( My son thinks we should just haul all the pieces to a shop and let someone else do it... which basically means I'm on my own for this project... FWIW, I was able to contort myself for about an hour to replace glow plug #2 on my '91 300D. My wife was able to start and drive the 300D out of the drive a few minutes ago, a testament to my wrenching success... (no calls of panic ensued, so unless she forgot her cell phone she's on her way to shopping bliss looking for discount Christmas decorations she'll likely attempt to store in my office for the next year to display for a month next year...) the other two jeep projects are in the "wait" mode... waiting for the title for the '89 XJ and waiting for my friend to reassemble my jeep that he took apart in 2001... any day now... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Yo John, # # A little more humor from my buddy Carmine. Now I've got him going! # # ;) # # Jim # # PS. Watch for my comments in []'s # # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # I'm glad he enjoyed it. # # Oh, the M/C will go at some point. Tell him to forget the aluminum one. Get a cast iron rebuilt and then, using a BFS, pry off the fluid tank from the failed one and install it in the rebuilt one. # # Say a little prayer to St. Benedict, Patron Saint of Rebuilt Starters, Alternators, Waterpumps and Master Cylinders and begin the bleeding process. # # You remember how much fun that was don't you? # # ;-) # # # [I do indeed... it took us a LONG time to bench bleed that MC!] # # # # Oh yeah!!! # # I forgot!! # # The vacuum pump will fail. It's great when it does. Since the engine makes no vacuum and you need vacuum assist for the steering and brakes you have this nifty little pump that fails just when you need to brake hard and you realize it's just you and your straining, trembling leg trying to stop an 8,000 lb truck before you rear-end a guy stopped at a light. # # Oh, the joy that brought to my heart, no to mention adrenalin. Oh, and then you have to diagnose this problem since it's intermittent. Oh, what fun. # # Then, you go buy a rebuilt pump at AutoZone and a new belt. You put in the pump, belt and drive for a while until, BAM, you hear this squealing like you just put a cat in a garbage disposal and white smoke starts roiling out from under your hood. You pull over to find that, yep, the "new" pump is seized, your new belt (the really good "Gold" kind) is toast and you're stranded with no way to remove the remnants of the belt to continue. # # You look at the pump which is leaking some kind of vital fluid and is missing a bolt and you curse your luck for not knowing who the Patron Saint of vacuum pumps is (not St. Benedict, he has his hands full). This was before Gore invented the internet so I couldn't just "Google" it. # # Had to get a new pump and the guy, after I begged, gave me a crummy $4.00 belt to make up for the one I spent $12.95 on. # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # Oh yeah, if John has any thoughts of resting his arm comfortably on the armrest whilst sweating to death in the winter or summer from the wonky climate controls tell him to forget it - the armrest will fall off and leave him with no real way of reattaching it. It will leave a nice stick-outy bit protruding from the door panel that can wound him or tear his clothes. Just keep a first-aid kit in the glove box. # # I found the armrest stores nicely behind the seat. I think maybe it's a feature Ford forgot to mention. # # Then there is the matter of the driveshaft universal joints. Oh yes, we both enjoyed that little slice of heaven. I must have replaced those joints five or six times. Oh, the best was when the front joint broke and took the yoke with it. Oh yeah, nothing like having to get your driveshaft rebuilt. You got yours done for a pretty good price, mention where that was to John, maybe he can mail it to them. # # [Yeah, I forgot to mention that one. I've gone through about 4 u-joints also. One got so bad before I realized it that it destroyed the yoke at the rear pumpkin. That was a fun replacement. Carmine helped with that one.] # # Then, after my bearing caps got loose in the cup holes I had to get brass shims in between them and the holes to keep the cups stationary lest they rotate and become really bad bushings rather than nice roller bearings. # # You and I went to the hardware store to get that shim metal, remember? # # Ah, those were the days... # # ;-) # # # [Ah, yes, I miss those days ;) ] # # # C* # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:35:29 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: Re: [db] tug finally sold, J10 not finished, now what? no, disconnected the lower radiator hose and transmission lines then laid on my back and used a stubby 10mm combo wrench, eeked it out partial turn by partial turn... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # How did you get the dreaded 10mm bolt out? A special tool? # # - Landon # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj@digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj@digest.net] On Behalf Of # john # Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:40 PM # To: Jim Hoffman # Cc: full size jeep list; diesel-benz list; ABCvoice@worldnet.att.net; # brian ohara; Mac; David Ashby; grhubert; greg weigand; Ronald Fuka; # Kevin Pekarek; Mark Camper; Michael Lacher; lasikeyes; Wes Molsberry; # Carmine Forte # Subject: fsj: Re: [db] tug finally sold, J10 not finished, now what? # # you two have convinced me to stick with my benz and my jeeps... :) no # ford in my future... # I'm challenged enough with the engineering of jeeps and mercedes, # don't need a third vector of challenges... # # thank you. # # So, now, I need to go reassemble a Grand Cherokee around it's # radiator... ;) Got the dead 4.0 out last night... now I need to locate # all the bolts and pieces, figure out how to attach the good 4.0 to my # shop crane (loaned my engine leveler bar to a friend and it never found # it's way home... all suspects deny ever seeing it... :( My son thinks # we should just haul all the pieces to a shop and let someone else do # it... which basically means I'm on my own for this project... # # FWIW, I was able to contort myself for about an hour to replace glow # plug #2 on my '91 300D. # My wife was able to start and drive the 300D out of the drive a few # minutes ago, a testament to my wrenching success... (no calls of panic # ensued, so unless she forgot her cell phone she's on her way to shopping # bliss looking for discount Christmas decorations she'll likely attempt # to store in my office for the next year to display for a month next # year...) # # the other two jeep projects are in the "wait" mode... waiting for the # title for the '89 XJ and waiting for my friend to reassemble my jeep # that he took apart in 2001... any day now... # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Jim Hoffman wrote: # # # Yo John, # # # # A little more humor from my buddy Carmine. Now I've got him going! # # # # ;) # # # # Jim # # # # PS. Watch for my comments in []'s # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # # # # I'm glad he enjoyed it. # # # # Oh, the M/C will go at some point. Tell him to forget the aluminum # one. Get a cast iron rebuilt and then, using a BFS, pry off the fluid # tank from the failed one and install it in the rebuilt one. # # # # Say a little prayer to St. Benedict, Patron Saint of Rebuilt # Starters, Alternators, Waterpumps and Master Cylinders and begin the # bleeding process. # # # # You remember how much fun that was don't you? # # # # ;-) # # # # # # [I do indeed... it took us a LONG time to bench bleed that MC!] # # # # # Oh yeah!!! # # # # I forgot!! # # # # The vacuum pump will fail. It's great when it does. Since the # engine makes no vacuum and you need vacuum assist for the steering and # brakes you have this nifty little pump that fails just when you need to # brake hard and you realize it's just you and your straining, trembling # leg trying to stop an 8,000 lb truck before you rear-end a guy stopped # at a light. # # # # Oh, the joy that brought to my heart, no to mention adrenalin. Oh, # and then you have to diagnose this problem since it's intermittent. Oh, # what fun. # # # # Then, you go buy a rebuilt pump at AutoZone and a new belt. You put # in the pump, belt and drive for a while until, BAM, you hear this # squealing like you just put a cat in a garbage disposal and white smoke # starts roiling out from under your hood. You pull over to find that, # yep, the "new" pump is seized, your new belt (the really good "Gold" # kind) is toast and you're stranded with no way to remove the remnants of # the belt to continue. # # # # You look at the pump which is leaking some kind of vital fluid and is # missing a bolt and you curse your luck for not knowing who the Patron # Saint of vacuum pumps is (not St. Benedict, he has his hands full). # This was before Gore invented the internet so I couldn't just "Google" # it. # # # # Had to get a new pump and the guy, after I begged, gave me a crummy # $4.00 belt to make up for the one I spent $12.95 on. # # # # # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # # # # Oh yeah, if John has any thoughts of resting his arm comfortably on # the armrest whilst sweating to death in the winter or summer from the # wonky climate controls tell him to forget it - the armrest will fall off # and leave him with no real way of reattaching it. It will leave a nice # stick-outy bit protruding from the door panel that can wound him or tear # his clothes. Just keep a first-aid kit in the glove box. # # # # I found the armrest stores nicely behind the seat. I think maybe # it's a feature Ford forgot to mention. # # # # Then there is the matter of the driveshaft universal joints. Oh yes, # we both enjoyed that little slice of heaven. I must have replaced those # joints five or six times. Oh, the best was when the front joint broke # and took the yoke with it. Oh yeah, nothing like having to get your # driveshaft rebuilt. You got yours done for a pretty good price, mention # where that was to John, maybe he can mail it to them. # # # # [Yeah, I forgot to mention that one. I've gone through about 4 # u-joints also. One got so bad before I realized it that it destroyed # the yoke at the rear pumpkin. That was a fun replacement. Carmine # helped with that one.] # # Then, after my bearing caps got loose in # the cup holes I had to get brass shims in between them and the holes to # keep the cups stationary lest they rotate and become really bad bushings # rather than nice roller bearings. # # # # You and I went to the hardware store to get that shim metal, # remember? # # # # Ah, those were the days... # # # # ;-) # # # # # # [Ah, yes, I miss those days ;) ] # # # # # # C* # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:21:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] 4.0L swap... so close... need help... I'm so very close to having it in place... could use some help getting things lined up and bolted back in place... my son had to leave for the evening... I need someone that has a rough idea of what they are doing to help get things lined up and reinstall the motor mounts... was not easy getting that engine in or out... especially since my engine load balancer thing got loaned to a friend with a 4.0 and never returned... anyway, very, very close to having things lined up but need to rotate the engine just a bit to get the tranny bolts in place and the motor mounts back on... anyone in the Seattle area have an hour or two to spare? :) latest pictures at the bottom: http://wagoneers.com/WJ/tech/WJ-4.0L-swap/ALL.html thanx, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:49:38 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Trouble shooting the Chrysler Turbo encapulator On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Jim Blair wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXW0bx_Ooq4&feature=player_embedded hysterical... thanx Jim. jammed packed with technical content... :) john btw, almost got the engine in the 2000 WJ... so close... hopefully tomorrow... http://wagoneers.com/WJ/tech/WJ-4.0L-swap/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:52:36 -0500 From: Mike Frank Subject: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust I'm having a very, very hard time locating exhaust components. Ansa still makes the muffler, I have my doubts about fit. I managed to score an NOS Mercedes center muffler. But the front pipe seems to be impossible. There is a part from Bosal that alleges to be correct, but isn't. Wrong flange and it doesn't have the catalyst thingy. Has anyone encountered and solved this problem? Mike Frank ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:13:23 -0800 From: Kevin Subject: Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Probably the part doesn't exist much aftermarket for the downpipe due to the emissions recall eliminating the trap and putting in a cat instead. One could possibly do away with the cat, assuming evil governmental bad guys aren't closely watching for emissions equipment. That failing, find a parts car that is in a not-salty part of the country. On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 09:52:36PM -0500, Mike Frank wrote: > I'm having a very, very hard time locating exhaust components. Ansa > still makes the muffler, I have my doubts about fit. I managed to > score an NOS Mercedes center muffler. But the front pipe seems to be > impossible. There is a part from Bosal that alleges to be correct, > but isn't. Wrong flange and it doesn't have the catalyst thingy. Has > anyone encountered and solved this problem? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:17:13 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust have you tried the dealer? just curious... I've never had trouble finding parts, even for really old Mercedes... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Mike Frank wrote: # I'm having a very, very hard time locating exhaust components. Ansa still # makes the muffler, I have my doubts about fit. I managed to score an NOS # Mercedes center muffler. But the front pipe seems to be impossible. There is # a part from Bosal that alleges to be correct, but isn't. Wrong flange and it # doesn't have the catalyst thingy. Has anyone encountered and solved this # problem? # # Mike Frank # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:38:49 -0600 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [db] '87 300TDT exhaust Give Rusty at buymbparts a call 1-800-741-5252 Mike Frank wrote: > I'm having a very, very hard time locating exhaust components. Ansa > still makes the muffler, I have my doubts about fit. I managed to > score an NOS Mercedes center muffler. But the front pipe seems to be > impossible. There is a part from Bosal that alleges to be correct, but > isn't. Wrong flange and it doesn't have the catalyst thingy. Has > anyone encountered and solved this problem? > > Mike Frank > - -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3206 **********************************