From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sun Feb 21 13:16:52 2010 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Sunday, February 21 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3249 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] '97 E300D still on the lot [db] Diesel options [db] murphy is here. Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:45:31 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] '97 E300D still on the lot that '97 E300D is still listed, same price even... I wonder if he'd trade straight up for my 2000 Grand Cherokee. :) http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/ctd/1597884514.html We've gone through the list of issues with this year and model thanx to list members and other lists... interestingly enough, all the issues identified that would hit the Diesel model seem to have... - - fogged headlight lenses... - - issues with the factory stereo - was replaced with an aftermarket - - issues with the stock wheels/lug nuts - were replaced with amg rims I think those were two items... the other one that's more specifically an issue with the Diesel is the elaborate and brittle fuel system... if I were to get this one I doubt I would attempt to run WVO or BioDiesel in it. mercifully I believe the WJ will sell before I bother to buy more gas for the WJ to drive it over to the lot... most car lots are clueless... but I think time may work in my favor if I want to take the risk of a newer benz... my '91 300D is running too well to get rid of... but if this lot would take the '00 WJ in trade, I'd do it... but when I talked to them before they were going to go by the book, and offer me trade in value... no thanx. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 09:45:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Diesel options all of the 5 cylinder Mercedes are fine. it's the 6 cylinder ones you have to be careful of. it's not heavier, just has issues with heads and such... the '82-'85 3.0L Turbo Diesels are solid, timing chain, WVO compatible engines that will give very long life and about 26 mpg in town in a 3,500lb vehicle, 0 to 60 in the 14-16 second range... faster than an AMC 360 in an '81 Wagoneer. the 2.5L TD I have in my '91 300D puts out more power, gets better economy... the 3.0L I-6 used in the early 124 series is also good, if never overheated. Overall I would say that a Mercedes Diesel would be best installed in an XJ or WJ. That's why I went with the SD33T for SuperDawg... less power, but industrial strength. Would I consider putting a I-5 Mercedes Diesel into an FSJ, if it was the Turbo version and I could figure out the transmission/xfr case setup, YES. The Nissan SD33T out of the Scout, using an RV version of the TF727 mated to a Jeep NP208 was a lot easier... I dislike the TF727 used in Jeeps, but the one used behind the Scouts and in the CJ-10A was NOT the same, it's industrial strength, different case even... it is a real transmission... the 727's used in Jeeps are NOT as strong... A 6.2L Diesel with a built 700R4 in a FSJ is a good option, but get decent motor mounts... and get the adapater that changes the OUTPUT shaft of the transmission and NOT the input stuff on the XFR case... xfr cases are replaced more often than transmissions... novak did some bass-akward thinking... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # Haven't we been through this, that the 4 cyl are epxensive and # underpowered for an FSJ and the 6 cyl are too heavy and long? I'm open # to suggestions that are cost effective... 5 cyl Mercedes? # # - Landon # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj@digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj@digest.net] On Behalf Of # john # Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 11:31 PM # To: Kim Tesar # Cc: fsj digest # Subject: Re: fsj: weber 40 IDF carb and adapter # # if you're gonna go through all that trouble why not install a Diesel? # :) # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Kim Tesar wrote: # # # maybe they're using a special degreed cam in a stroker and don't want # to # reprogram chips all day. # # # # - L # # ///// # # On Feb 18, 2010, at 10:44 PM, john wrote: # # # # >why would anyone replace a fuel injection system with a carb???? # # > # # >maybe I don't want to know... I suppose they replaced the # # >electronic igniton with points and took out the automatic # >to put in # a T-90, removed the a/c, headliner, door handles, # >and cut the # fenders off... # # > # # > ----- # # # >----------------------------------------------------------------------- # - # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # mold # # >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para # bellum # # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # http://fotomeister.us # # >----------------------------------------------------------------------- # - # # > # # > # # >On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Kim Tesar wrote: # # > # # > # Hi, # # > # any experience with this carb on a 4.0 head? # # > # # # > # http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/1607088822.html # # > # # # > # I did not find the adapter on the clifford site.... # # > # # # > # - Landon # # > # # # > # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:16:22 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] murphy is here. murphy appears to be visiting snohomish... trying to sell the '00 WJ... had the engine professionally installed, all hoses, water pump and all new... someone was out on a test drive and it started leaking antifreeze. argh. anyone got any murphy be gone? :) in other words, y'all should be able to get something done on your projects today... I'll hold him here for a while longer. ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3249 **********************************