From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Fri Apr 30 22:51:43 2010 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Saturday, May 1 2010 Volume 01 : Number 3278 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Eurolights RE: [db] Eurolights Re: [db] Eurolights RE: [db] Eurolights RE: [db] Eurolights [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 16:58:28 -0700 From: "Scott Haaland" Subject: [db] Eurolights Hi All, I'm seeking advice on replacing headlight assemblies on my 1985 W201 190D 2.2L. The Fog light lenses are cracked and falling apart (yes, actually have holes now). First of all, I've searched high and low on the internet, and apparently, you can't just buy new lenses for the fog lights (that would be too easy). You have to buy the whole headlight assembly (please correct me if I'm wrong, and send info on where to buy). I found a used pair on eBay for $100, but they are only marginally better with a crack already there in the right fog light lens...Called the dealer, and it's like $618 per side for new ones....NOT! So, I was looking at a site that sells replacement assemblies but in the "Euro Lights" style. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on a good supplier for these and if they are of good quality? The ones I found were $258 for the pair....either Chrome or Smoke Black. www.Kingsource.com Is this the way to go? Get new lights, and improve the styling, or do they just look goofy? Thanks, Scott - -- Scott 85 190D 2.2L Non-Turbo W201 96 Chevy Suburban 6.5L Turbo 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:12:03 -0500 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] Eurolights Bosch brand "Headlight Rim" from Rusty's buymbparts.biz for $61.18 (for the left or the right) is the foglight lens and the plastic surround for both the headlight and foglight unit. It's just the sides and the front, which I think is all you're looking for. http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=&yearid=1984@@1984&makeid=63@@ MERCEDES@@X&modelid=6119:MBC|1481:ED|10000092@@190D&catid=241959@@Body+Elect rical&subcatid=242152@@Headlight+Rim&applicationid=W0133-1714930&mode=PA , if that survives sending through the listserv. On the W124, it was called the Headlight Door when I replaced mine. Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 08 smart fortwo, 30K > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel- > benz@digest.net] On Behalf Of Scott Haaland > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:58 PM > To: 'diesel-benz list' > Subject: [db] Eurolights > > Hi All, > > I'm seeking advice on replacing headlight assemblies on my 1985 W201 > 190D > 2.2L. The Fog light lenses are cracked and falling apart (yes, > actually > have holes now). First of all, I've searched high and low on the > internet, > and apparently, you can't just buy new lenses for the fog lights (that > would > be too easy). You have to buy the whole headlight assembly (please > correct > me if I'm wrong, and send info on where to buy). I found a used pair > on > eBay for $100, but they are only marginally better with a crack already > there in the right fog light lens...Called the dealer, and it's like > $618 > per side for new ones....NOT! > > So, I was looking at a site that sells replacement assemblies but in > the > "Euro Lights" style. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on a > good > supplier for these and if they are of good quality? The ones I found > were > $258 for the pair....either Chrome or Smoke Black. www.Kingsource.com > > Is this the way to go? Get new lights, and improve the styling, or do > they > just look goofy? > > Thanks, > Scott > -- > Scott > 85 190D 2.2L Non-Turbo W201 > 96 Chevy Suburban 6.5L Turbo 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 20:45:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Eurolights I've got euro headlights on my '91 300D... much better lighting... don't recall what I paid for them, but I got them out of wrecking yard in europe through a friend... If you search on wrecking yards in Nederland and Deutschland you may be able to find someone that will ship them... unfortunately any of our friends in GB won't be able to help, the headlights will be pointed the wrong way... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Scott Haaland wrote: # Hi All, # # I'm seeking advice on replacing headlight assemblies on my 1985 W201 190D # 2.2L. The Fog light lenses are cracked and falling apart (yes, actually # have holes now). First of all, I've searched high and low on the internet, # and apparently, you can't just buy new lenses for the fog lights (that would # be too easy). You have to buy the whole headlight assembly (please correct # me if I'm wrong, and send info on where to buy). I found a used pair on # eBay for $100, but they are only marginally better with a crack already # there in the right fog light lens...Called the dealer, and it's like $618 # per side for new ones....NOT! # # So, I was looking at a site that sells replacement assemblies but in the # "Euro Lights" style. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on a good # supplier for these and if they are of good quality? The ones I found were # $258 for the pair....either Chrome or Smoke Black. www.Kingsource.com # # Is this the way to go? Get new lights, and improve the styling, or do they # just look goofy? # # Thanks, # Scott # -- # Scott # 85 190D 2.2L Non-Turbo W201 # 96 Chevy Suburban 6.5L Turbo 4x4 # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:31:14 -0700 From: "Scott Haaland" Subject: RE: [db] Eurolights Hi Alec, Great info...thanks! It's tempting to upgrade to Eurolights, but I'm not willing to spend $150 more on an upgrade like that for this car right now....Ordering the standard "headlight rim" will do the trick. More than I'd like to spend ($122 for both), but it's not too unreasonable. I've already placed the order with Rusty, and added a couple of other parts I've been meaning to get...(since shipping is free after $99)... That just shows you that google doesn't know everything...I thought I had looked extensively through the online benz parts stores, but I guess the name totally threw me off. I should have pinged the old diesel benz list sooner. You guys are all awesome. Thanks for the help throughout the years in maintaining my diesel benz's! R, Scott - -----Original Message----- From: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz@digest.net] On Behalf Of Alec Cordova Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:12 PM To: 'Scott Haaland'; 'diesel-benz list' Subject: RE: [db] Eurolights Bosch brand "Headlight Rim" from Rusty's buymbparts.biz for $61.18 (for the left or the right) is the foglight lens and the plastic surround for both the headlight and foglight unit. It's just the sides and the front, which I think is all you're looking for. http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=&yearid=1984@@1984&makeid=63@@ MERCEDES@@X&modelid=6119:MBC|1481:ED|10000092@@190D&catid=241959@@Body+Elect rical&subcatid=242152@@Headlight+Rim&applicationid=W0133-1714930&mode=PA , if that survives sending through the listserv. On the W124, it was called the Headlight Door when I replaced mine. Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 08 smart fortwo, 30K > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel- > benz@digest.net] On Behalf Of Scott Haaland > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:58 PM > To: 'diesel-benz list' > Subject: [db] Eurolights > > Hi All, > > I'm seeking advice on replacing headlight assemblies on my 1985 W201 > 190D > 2.2L. The Fog light lenses are cracked and falling apart (yes, > actually > have holes now). First of all, I've searched high and low on the > internet, > and apparently, you can't just buy new lenses for the fog lights (that > would > be too easy). You have to buy the whole headlight assembly (please > correct > me if I'm wrong, and send info on where to buy). I found a used pair > on > eBay for $100, but they are only marginally better with a crack already > there in the right fog light lens...Called the dealer, and it's like > $618 > per side for new ones....NOT! > > So, I was looking at a site that sells replacement assemblies but in > the > "Euro Lights" style. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on a > good > supplier for these and if they are of good quality? The ones I found > were > $258 for the pair....either Chrome or Smoke Black. www.Kingsource.com > > Is this the way to go? Get new lights, and improve the styling, or do > they > just look goofy? > > Thanks, > Scott > -- > Scott > 85 190D 2.2L Non-Turbo W201 > 96 Chevy Suburban 6.5L Turbo 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Eurolights that's why we're here... thanx to Richard Welty... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Scott Haaland wrote: # Hi Alec, # # Great info...thanks! It's tempting to upgrade to Eurolights, but I'm not # willing to spend $150 more on an upgrade like that for this car right # now....Ordering the standard "headlight rim" will do the trick. More than # I'd like to spend ($122 for both), but it's not too unreasonable. I've # already placed the order with Rusty, and added a couple of other parts I've # been meaning to get...(since shipping is free after $99)... # # That just shows you that google doesn't know everything...I thought I had # looked extensively through the online benz parts stores, but I guess the # name totally threw me off. I should have pinged the old diesel benz list # sooner. # # You guys are all awesome. Thanks for the help throughout the years in # maintaining my diesel benz's! # # R, # Scott # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel-benz@digest.net] On # Behalf Of Alec Cordova # Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 5:12 PM # To: 'Scott Haaland'; 'diesel-benz list' # Subject: RE: [db] Eurolights # # Bosch brand "Headlight Rim" from Rusty's buymbparts.biz for $61.18 (for the # left or the right) is the foglight lens and the plastic surround for both # the headlight and foglight unit. It's just the sides and the front, which I # think is all you're looking for. # http://www.buymbparts.biz/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=&yearid=1984@@1984&makeid=63@@ # MERCEDES@@X&modelid=6119:MBC|1481:ED|10000092@@190D&catid=241959@@Body+Elect # rical&subcatid=242152@@Headlight+Rim&applicationid=W0133-1714930&mode=PA , # if that survives sending through the listserv. # # On the W124, it was called the Headlight Door when I replaced mine. # # Alec Cordova # Taylor, Texas # 08 smart fortwo, 30K # # > -----Original Message----- # > From: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net [mailto:owner-diesel- # > benz@digest.net] On Behalf Of Scott Haaland # > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 6:58 PM # > To: 'diesel-benz list' # > Subject: [db] Eurolights # > # > Hi All, # > # > I'm seeking advice on replacing headlight assemblies on my 1985 W201 # > 190D # > 2.2L. The Fog light lenses are cracked and falling apart (yes, # > actually # > have holes now). First of all, I've searched high and low on the # > internet, # > and apparently, you can't just buy new lenses for the fog lights (that # > would # > be too easy). You have to buy the whole headlight assembly (please # > correct # > me if I'm wrong, and send info on where to buy). I found a used pair # > on # > eBay for $100, but they are only marginally better with a crack already # > there in the right fog light lens...Called the dealer, and it's like # > $618 # > per side for new ones....NOT! # > # > So, I was looking at a site that sells replacement assemblies but in # > the # > "Euro Lights" style. I was wondering if anyone has any advice on a # > good # > supplier for these and if they are of good quality? The ones I found # > were # > $258 for the pair....either Chrome or Smoke Black. www.Kingsource.com # > # > Is this the way to go? Get new lights, and improve the styling, or do # > they # > just look goofy? # > # > Thanks, # > Scott # > -- # > Scott # > 85 190D 2.2L Non-Turbo W201 # > 96 Chevy Suburban 6.5L Turbo 4x4 # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 05:45:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. 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