From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Fri Jan 21 07:31:21 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, January 21 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3378 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:50:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Looks pretty cobbed up for something that's supposed to be factory. And that headliner is disgusting! I wouldn't let that thing touch MY head! :D Jim - --- On Thu, 1/20/11, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? > To: > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:36 PM > ran down to seattle at lunch time... > took pictures of the '86 Cherokee with the 2.1L Turbo > Diesel > that needs a new bellhousing (at a minimum). seller > was asking $2k, down to $1k... not sure > I take it if they paid me that much... not excited > about it... but my Jetta just scored 36 mpg > in town... one more tank to get an average... first was 41, > now 36... suspect it'll be somewhere > in between next time... > > anyway, the XJ is salvageable... the rust won't be an issue > here, nothing structural is rotted > and the body damage and paint isn't that bad... > > wondering if I should make an offer... > > any idea what this is worth? > > It'll need a few things... I'm thinking $300-$800 for trans > repair and reinstall (mounts, etc.) > about $500 worth of simple green and degreaser, probably > another $500 worth of rust converter, (just kidding) > new headliner, $400, seats, $500, bumper $200, good > cleaning of exterior to see if there are > any body panels that don't have a ding.... I'm thinking the > left rear passenger door may be > the only straight piece of metal on this thing... of course > nothing serious, just didn't age well, > kind of like most of us. > > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel has a rebuilt injection pump and the > PPO had a new head installed... with all > the oil all over that thing and the jug of valvoline (not a > good sign) in the back I'm thinking this > thing will need seals (actually O-rings) all over the > place... the intercooler is a hack job, the > a/c has been partially removed... > > the tires may be worth more than the entire vehicle, but > who would ride on firestones? isn't that what > disintegrated under ford exploders and caused them to > roll? ok, so they were probably underflated, heavier > and driven by folks in extremely hot weather that didn't > know how to drive... they are likely noisy, and > they are two sizes (6%) too big... should ahve p205/75/15, > not p225. that's hard on that weak transmission. > > I wonder if the guy would give me the jeep if he could keep > the tires... :) > > anyway, I could have this running in a weekend... not sure > if the bellhousing could be tig welded or not... > probably a good idea to get a replacement... but who > knows what else is going on with this thing... > > keep the popcorn fresh... but don't add butter > thinking this will become part of my fleet... :) > > today's pictures: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-20jan2011.html > > showed these before: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-by-owner.html > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 04:40:40 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Won't touch my head. :). I started counting tie wraps, then bailing wire, but I didn't find the duct tape or chewing gum, but I wasn't able to pop the hood. :) Some of the comments coming in are worth way more than the truck. :) john at http://wagoneers.com - -----Original Message----- From: Jim Hoffman Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 17:50:18 To: Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? Looks pretty cobbed up for something that's supposed to be factory. And that headliner is disgusting! I wouldn't let that thing touch MY head! :D Jim - --- On Thu, 1/20/11, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? > To: > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:36 PM > ran down to seattle at lunch time... > took pictures of the '86 Cherokee with the 2.1L Turbo > Diesel > that needs a new bellhousing (at a minimum). seller > was asking $2k, down to $1k... not sure > I take it if they paid me that much... not excited > about it... but my Jetta just scored 36 mpg > in town... one more tank to get an average... first was 41, > now 36... suspect it'll be somewhere > in between next time... > > anyway, the XJ is salvageable... the rust won't be an issue > here, nothing structural is rotted > and the body damage and paint isn't that bad... > > wondering if I should make an offer... > > any idea what this is worth? > > It'll need a few things... I'm thinking $300-$800 for trans > repair and reinstall (mounts, etc.) > about $500 worth of simple green and degreaser, probably > another $500 worth of rust converter, (just kidding) > new headliner, $400, seats, $500, bumper $200, good > cleaning of exterior to see if there are > any body panels that don't have a ding.... I'm thinking the > left rear passenger door may be > the only straight piece of metal on this thing... of course > nothing serious, just didn't age well, > kind of like most of us. > > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel has a rebuilt injection pump and the > PPO had a new head installed... with all > the oil all over that thing and the jug of valvoline (not a > good sign) in the back I'm thinking this > thing will need seals (actually O-rings) all over the > place... the intercooler is a hack job, the > a/c has been partially removed... > > the tires may be worth more than the entire vehicle, but > who would ride on firestones? isn't that what > disintegrated under ford exploders and caused them to > roll? ok, so they were probably underflated, heavier > and driven by folks in extremely hot weather that didn't > know how to drive... they are likely noisy, and > they are two sizes (6%) too big... should ahve p205/75/15, > not p225. that's hard on that weak transmission. > > I wonder if the guy would give me the jeep if he could keep > the tires... :) > > anyway, I could have this running in a weekend... not sure > if the bellhousing could be tig welded or not... > probably a good idea to get a replacement... but who > knows what else is going on with this thing... > > keep the popcorn fresh... but don't add butter > thinking this will become part of my fleet... :) > > today's pictures: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-20jan2011.html > > showed these before: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-by-owner.html > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 22:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? one other thought about the headliner... at least you HAVE hair... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Looks pretty cobbed up for something that's supposed to be factory. # And that # headliner is disgusting! I wouldn't let that thing touch # MY head! # # :D # # Jim # --- On Thu, 1/20/11, john wrote: # # > From: john # # > Subject: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at # this? # > To: # > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:36 PM # > ran down to seattle # at lunch time... # > took pictures of the '86 Cherokee with the 2.1L Turbo # > # Diesel # > that needs a new bellhousing (at a minimum). seller # > was asking # $2k, down to $1k... not sure # > I take it if they paid me that much... not # excited # > about it... but my Jetta just scored 36 mpg # > in town... one more # tank to get an average... first was 41, # > now 36... suspect it'll be somewhere # > in between next time... # > # > anyway, the XJ is salvageable... the rust # won't be an issue # > here, nothing structural is rotted # > and the body damage # and paint isn't that bad... # > # > wondering if I should make an offer... # > # > # any idea what this is worth? # > # > It'll need a few things... I'm thinking # $300-$800 for trans # > repair and reinstall (mounts, etc.) # > about $500 worth # of simple green and degreaser, probably # > another $500 worth of rust # converter, (just kidding) # > new headliner, $400, seats, $500, bumper $200, # good # > cleaning of exterior to see if there are # > any body panels that don't # have a ding.... I'm thinking the # > left rear passenger door may be # > the only # straight piece of metal on this thing... of course # > nothing serious, just # didn't age well, # > kind of like most of us. # > # > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel has a # rebuilt injection pump and the # > PPO had a new head installed... with all # > # the oil all over that thing and the jug of valvoline (not a # > good sign) in # the back I'm thinking this # > thing will need seals (actually O-rings) all over # the # > place... the intercooler is a hack job, the # > a/c has been partially # removed... # > # > the tires may be worth more than the entire vehicle, but # > # who would ride on firestones? isn't that what # > disintegrated under ford # exploders and caused them to # > roll? ok, so they were probably underflated, # heavier # > and driven by folks in extremely hot weather that didn't # > know how # to drive... they are likely noisy, and # > they are two sizes (6%) too big... # should ahve p205/75/15, # > not p225. that's hard on that weak transmission. # > # > I wonder if the guy would give me the jeep if he could keep # > the tires... # :) # > # > anyway, I could have this running in a weekend... not sure # > if the # bellhousing could be tig welded or not... # > probably a good idea to get a # replacement... but who # > knows what else is going on with this thing... # > # > # keep the popcorn fresh... but don't add butter # > thinking this will become # part of my fleet... :) # > # > today's pictures: # > # http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-20jan2011.html # > # > showed # these before: # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-by-owner.html # > # > # > ----- # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > si vis pacem, para bellum # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:14:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? I DO! And I'm tall so it would definitely touch that disgusting headliner! ;) Jim - --- On Fri, 1/21/11, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: Re: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I look at this? > To: "Jim Hoffman" > Cc: diesel-benz@digest.net > Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 12:07 AM > one other thought about the > headliner... > > at least you HAVE hair... ;) > > > > ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # Looks pretty cobbed up for something that's supposed to > be factory. > # And that > # headliner is disgusting! I wouldn't let that thing > touch > # MY head! > # > # :D > # > # Jim > # --- On Thu, 1/20/11, john > wrote: > # > # > From: john > # > # > Subject: [db] lunch time adventure or why did I > look at > # this? > # > To: > # > Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:36 PM > # > ran down to seattle > # at lunch time... > # > took pictures of the '86 Cherokee with the 2.1L > Turbo > # > > # Diesel > # > that needs a new bellhousing (at a minimum). > seller > # > was asking > # $2k, down to $1k... not sure > # > I take it if they paid me that much... not > # excited > # > about it... but my Jetta just scored 36 mpg > # > in town... one more > # tank to get an average... first was 41, > # > now 36... suspect it'll be somewhere > # > in between next time... > # > > # > anyway, the XJ is salvageable... the rust > # won't be an issue > # > here, nothing structural is rotted > # > and the body damage > # and paint isn't that bad... > # > > # > wondering if I should make an offer... > # > > # > > # any idea what this is worth? > # > > # > It'll need a few things... I'm thinking > # $300-$800 for trans > # > repair and reinstall (mounts, etc.) > # > about $500 worth > # of simple green and degreaser, probably > # > another $500 worth of rust > # converter, (just kidding) > # > new headliner, $400, seats, $500, bumper $200, > # good > # > cleaning of exterior to see if there are > # > any body panels that don't > # have a ding.... I'm thinking the > # > left rear passenger door may be > # > the only > # straight piece of metal on this thing... of course > # > nothing serious, just > # didn't age well, > # > kind of like most of us. > # > > # > The 2.1L Turbo Diesel has a > # rebuilt injection pump and the > # > PPO had a new head installed... with all > # > > # the oil all over that thing and the jug of valvoline > (not a > # > good sign) in > # the back I'm thinking this > # > thing will need seals (actually O-rings) all over > # the > # > place... the intercooler is a hack job, the > # > a/c has been partially > # removed... > # > > # > the tires may be worth more than the entire > vehicle, but > # > > # who would ride on firestones? isn't that what > # > disintegrated under ford > # exploders and caused them to > # > roll? ok, so they were probably underflated, > # heavier > # > and driven by folks in extremely hot weather that > didn't > # > know how > # to drive... they are likely noisy, and > # > they are two sizes (6%) too big... > # should ahve p205/75/15, > # > not p225. that's hard on that weak > transmission. > # > > # > I wonder if the guy would give me the jeep if he > could keep > # > the tires... > # :) > # > > # > anyway, I could have this running in a weekend... > not sure > # > if the > # bellhousing could be tig welded or not... > # > probably a good idea to get a > # replacement... but who > # > knows what else is going on with this thing... > # > > # > > # keep the popcorn fresh... but don't add butter > # > thinking this will become > # part of my fleet... :) > # > > # > today's pictures: > # > > # http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-20jan2011.html > # > > # > showed > # these before: > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/XJ-turboDiesel-1986/ALL-by-owner.html > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > si vis pacem, para bellum > # > > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3378 **********************************