From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Fri Jan 7 11:12:02 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Monday, February 7 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3394 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Fwd: Re: [db] OM602.962 lifters? Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:33:02 -0800 From: Tom H Subject: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries O.K. guys: Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield wiper blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as simple as pushing the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it was that easy............with one problem. There is nothing that snaps them in place permanently. They are loose enough to come out and they do. An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm because the tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real bitch. Well, I was successfull in this and quite proud of myself. Until I noticed that I remounted the arm with the blade too high. I lived with it that way for a few weeks and tried to reset it yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself until I noticed what I though were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. I was thinking that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was having trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped (think half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper post. Further examination made my heart sink when I realized I had managed to crack the windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, when I messed with that wiper are R&R. :-( Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at least seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries these days and want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 OM. I'm not too concerned about branding. Size is more important in this case as there is no room for "almost". And, of course, price matters. There are wide variations in battery prices. No need to overpay. I live in Northern California. So, who knows a good source? TomH, '87 300SDL Antioch, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:01:58 -0800 From: Tom H Subject: Fwd: Re: [db] OM602.962 lifters? - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [db] OM602.962 lifters? Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 20:44:18 -0800 From: Tom H Reply-To: tjhemh@pacbell.net To: Bruce Caruthers On 2/2/2011 5:33 PM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > I've been hearing an intermittent clacking or ticking lately (about a month) on my '93 W124. > Shadetree mechanic neighbor heard it and thinks it is probably a sticking (worn or dirty) lifter/rocker. > OM 603s with hydraulic lifters are famous for lifter noise. I don't know if it is the same with OM 602s It does not deleteriously affect operation, but was emabarrasing when the car was younger. MB has had several iterations of lifters to "cure" the issue. I've known people to say they replaced the lifters, only to have the noise come back after a while. In my own case, Mobil 1 syn killed the sound at first. Later, it would kill it at oil change but it would start up about 4 or 5m miles later again. For the last 40,000 miles, the sound has been consistent with a few occasions when it is gone at idle. When no noise at idle, it truly does sound like a sewing machine. The 'clicking' ruins that sweet sound. I've seen a quasi tech article on the web how to identify which lifter is making the noise and replace it without replacing all sixteen. TomH, '87 300 SDL Antioch, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 21:31:02 -0800 From: john Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries sorry to hear about the windshield... as far as batteries I've been very happy with Interstate Batteries... john On 02/06/2011 08:33 PM, Tom H wrote: > O.K. guys: > > Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield > wiper blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as > simple as pushing the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it > was that easy............with one problem. There is nothing that > snaps them in place permanently. They are loose enough to come out > and they do. > > An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm > because the tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real > bitch. Well, I was successfull in this and quite proud of myself. > Until I noticed that I remounted the arm with the blade too high. I > lived with it that way for a few weeks and tried to reset it > yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself until I noticed what I though > were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. I was thinking > that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was having > trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped > (think half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper > post. Further examination made my heart sink when I realized I had > managed to crack the windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, > when I messed with that wiper are R&R. :-( > > Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at > least seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries > these days and want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 > OM. I'm not too concerned about branding. Size is more important in > this case as there is no room for "almost". And, of course, price > matters. There are wide variations in battery prices. No need to > overpay. I live in Northern California. So, who knows a good source? > > TomH, '87 300SDL > Antioch, CA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 09:35:51 -0800 From: Eric Ditwiler Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Walmart has yet to jack the price of their batteries to reflect increases in lead costs. Eric Ditwiler Director, Academic Operations Harvey Mudd College 909-607-3134 On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Tom H wrote: > O.K. guys: > > Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield wiper blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as simple as pushing the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it was that easy............with one problem. There is nothing that snaps them in place permanently. They are loose enough to come out and they do. > > An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm because the tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real bitch. Well, I was successfull in this and quite proud of myself. Until I noticed that I remounted the arm with the blade too high. I lived with it that way for a few weeks and tried to reset it yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself until I noticed what I though were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. I was thinking that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was having trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped (think half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper post. Further examination made my heart sink when I realized I had managed to crack the windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, when I messed with that wiper are R&R. :-( > > Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at least seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries these days and want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 OM. I'm not too concerned about branding. Size is more important in this case as there is no room for "almost". And, of course, price matters. There are wide variations in battery prices. No need to overpay. I live in Northern California. So, who knows a good source? > > TomH, '87 300SDL > Antioch, CA ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:42:29 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries what brand do they carry? there's not that many makers are there? exide interstate ??? so buying a battery at mcparts or wally world or sears or a budget battery or whatever comes down to one of a few mfrs, right? I think the mcparts stores handle exide... thoughts? john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: # Walmart has yet to jack the price of their batteries to reflect increases in # lead costs. # # # Eric Ditwiler # Director, Academic Operations # Harvey Mudd College # 909-607-3134 # # On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Tom H wrote: # # > O.K. guys: # > # > Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield wiper # blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as simple as pushing # the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it was that # easy............with one problem. There is nothing that snaps them in place # permanently. They are loose enough to come out and they do. # > # > An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm because the # tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real bitch. Well, I was # successfull in this and quite proud of myself. Until I noticed that I # remounted the arm with the blade too high. I lived with it that way for a few # weeks and tried to reset it yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself until I # noticed what I though were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. I # was thinking that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was having # trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped (think # half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper post. Further # examination made my heart sink when I realized I had managed to crack the # windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, when I messed with that wiper # are R&R. :-( # > # > Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at least # seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries these days and # want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 OM. I'm not too # concerned about branding. Size is more important in this case as there is no # room for "almost". And, of course, price matters. There are wide variations # in battery prices. No need to overpay. I live in Northern California. So, # who knows a good source? # > # > TomH, '87 300SDL # > Antioch, CA # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:46:21 -0600 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Last time I went battery shopping was maybe 4 years ago for the 89 300CE gasser. I was finding that Johnson Controls was one of the better manufacturers. I think they make DieHard, and they make most of the DuraLast branded units for AutoZone, so that's where I went. Good price, good fit, and the clerk got stuck installing it for free in the parking lot, finally defeating the corroded clampdown thing. I though WalMart carried Interstate, but I haven't checked lately. Alec On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:42 AM, john wrote: > what brand do they carry? > > there's not that many makers are there? > > exide > > interstate > > ??? > > so buying a battery at mcparts or wally world or sears or a budget battery or whatever comes > down to one of a few mfrs, right? > > I think the mcparts stores handle exide... > > thoughts? > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: > > # Walmart has yet to jack the price of their batteries to reflect increases in > # lead costs. > # > # > # Eric Ditwiler > # Director, Academic Operations > # Harvey Mudd College > # 909-607-3134 > # > # On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Tom H wrote: > # > # > O.K. guys: > # > > # > Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield wiper > # blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as simple as pushing > # the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it was that > # easy............with one problem. There is nothing that snaps them in place > # permanently. They are loose enough to come out and they do. > # > > # > An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm because the > # tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real bitch. Well, I was > # successfull in this and quite proud of myself. Until I noticed that I > # remounted the arm with the blade too high. I lived with it that way for a few > # weeks and tried to reset it yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself until I > # noticed what I though were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. I > # was thinking that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was having > # trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped (think > # half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper post. Further > # examination made my heart sink when I realized I had managed to crack the > # windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, when I messed with that wiper > # are R&R. :-( > # > > # > Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at least > # seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries these days and > # want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 OM. I'm not too > # concerned about branding. Size is more important in this case as there is no > # room for "almost". And, of course, price matters. There are wide variations > # in battery prices. No need to overpay. I live in Northern California. So, > # who knows a good source? > # > > # > TomH, '87 300SDL > # > Antioch, CA > # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:53:46 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Interstate is my choice, have had very good dealings with the local distributer in Everett, and had great support even in South Dakota when one failed. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Alec Cordova wrote: # Last time I went battery shopping was maybe 4 years ago for the 89 300CE # gasser. # I was finding that Johnson Controls was one of the better # manufacturers. I think they make DieHard, and they make most of the # DuraLast branded units for AutoZone, so that's where I went. Good # price, good fit, and the clerk got stuck installing it for free in the # parking lot, finally defeating the corroded clampdown thing. # # I though WalMart carried Interstate, but I haven't checked lately. # # Alec # # On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:42 AM, john wrote: # > what brand do they carry? # > # > there's not that many makers are there? # > # > exide # > # > interstate # > # > ??? # > # > so buying a battery at mcparts or wally world or sears or a budget battery # or whatever comes # > down to one of a few mfrs, right? # > # > I think the mcparts stores handle exide... # > # > thoughts? # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Mon, 7 Feb 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: # > # > # Walmart has yet to jack the price of their batteries to reflect increases # in # > # lead costs. # > # # > # # > # Eric Ditwiler # > # Director, Academic Operations # > # Harvey Mudd College # > # 909-607-3134 # > # # > # On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:33 PM, Tom H wrote: # > # # > # > O.K. guys: # > # > # > # > Wiper Blades: I bought a couple of high end Good Year windshield # wiper # > # blades for my 300 SDL. The instructions show them to be as simple as # pushing # > # the "U" hook through and snapping them in. And, it was that # > # easy............with one problem. There is nothing that snaps them in # place # > # permanently. They are loose enough to come out and they do. # > # > # > # > An aside: I had to remove the driver's side winshield wiper arm # because the # > # tension spring came off and getting it back on was a real bitch. Well, I # was # > # successfull in this and quite proud of myself. Until I noticed that I # > # remounted the arm with the blade too high. I lived with it that way for # a few # > # weeks and tried to reset it yesterday. Again, I was proud of myself # until I # > # noticed what I though were scratches on the lower part of the windshield. # I # > # was thinking that the wiper arm had scratched the windshield when I was # having # > # trouble retaining the blades because I noticed three, arched shaped # (think # > # half moon) shiny marks on the windshield just above the wiper post. # Further # > # examination made my heart sink when I realized I had managed to crack # the # > # windshield, at least the inner layer of glass, when I messed with that # wiper # > # are R&R. :-( # > # > # > # > Battery: My Sear Diehard has finally given up the ghost. It's at # least # > # seven years old, maybe more. Anyhow, I'm not up on batteries these days # and # > # want to know who might carry an exact fit for a W126 OM. I'm not too # > # concerned about branding. Size is more important in this case as there is # no # > # room for "almost". And, of course, price matters. There are wide # variations # > # in battery prices. No need to overpay. I live in Northern California. # So, # > # who knows a good source? # > # > # > # > TomH, '87 300SDL # > # > Antioch, CA # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 11:10:49 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Harais Subject: Re: [db] Wipers, Windshields and Batteries Walmart and Autozone. Good ideas guys! I haven't shopped batteries in so long, that I was assuming that none of the regular discounters would carry that odd MB size that is required. I guess I should be checking better before asking. ;-) After all, isn't that where the internet excels? TomH, '87 300 SDL Antioch, CA ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3394 **********************************