From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Tue Mar 1 00:28:01 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, March 1 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3403 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] specs 1959 190D [db] more 190D links [db] Interesting Volvo design Re: [db] Interesting Volvo design Re: [db] Interesting Volvo design [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] mercedes Diesels - years to avoid? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:46:19 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] specs 1959 190D found these specs, nice page: http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/mercedes_190D_technical_specifications.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 09:56:05 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] more 190D links interesting article: http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/suvs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-benz-diesel-across-america-tour/index.htmlhttp://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/suvs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-benz-diesel-across-america-tour/index.html also, the last four digests have had the same number... saving them as 3403, 3403A, 3403B, etc. Richard? :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: [db] Interesting Volvo design I always wondered what happened to "Robo Cop"... ;) http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2010/163_news100608_2010_volvo_truck_ concept/index.html Jim - --- On Mon, 2/28/11, john wrote: > From: john > Subject: [db] more 190D links > To: "diesel-benz list" > Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 11:56 AM > interesting article: > > http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/suvs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-ben z-diesel-across-america-tour/index.htmlhttp://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/su vs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-benz-diesel-across-america-tour/index.html > > > > also, the last four digests have had the same number... > saving them as 3403, 3403A, 3403B, etc. Richard? > :) > > john > > > > - ----- > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Interesting Volvo design egad is that thing ugly, looks like a martian from mars attacks... hideous... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 28 Feb 2011, Jim Hoffman wrote: # I always wondered what happened to "Robo Cop"... ;) # http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2010/163_news100608_2010_volvo_truck_ # concept/index.html # # Jim # # --- On Mon, 2/28/11, john wrote: # > From: john # > Subject: [db] more 190D links # > To: # "diesel-benz list" # > Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, # 11:56 AM # > interesting article: # > # > # http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/suvs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-ben # z-diesel-across-america-tour/index.htmlhttp://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/su # vs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-benz-diesel-across-america-tour/index.html # > # > # > # > also, the last four digests have had the same number... # > saving # them as 3403, 3403A, 3403B, etc. Richard? # > :) # > # > john # > # > # > # > # ----- # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where # > Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > si vis pacem, para bellum # > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:48:37 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] Interesting Volvo design Kinda reminds me of the Renault Magnum : http://otoblack.com/2010/05/03/truck/renault-magnum-shifts-dimensions.html On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Jim Hoffman wrote: > I always wondered what happened to "Robo Cop"... ;) > > http://www.trucktrend.com/features/news/2010/163_news100608_2010_volvo_truck_ > concept/index.html > > Jim > > --- On Mon, 2/28/11, john wrote: > > From: john > > Subject: [db] more 190D links > > To: > "diesel-benz list" > > Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, > 11:56 AM > > interesting article: > > > > > > http://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/suvs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-ben > > z-diesel-across-america-tour/index.htmlhttp://blogs.trucktrend.com/6283796/su > > vs/mts-old-tech-to-bluetec-mercedes-benz-diesel-across-america-tour/index.htm l > > > > > > > > also, the last four digests have had the same number... > > saving > them as 3403, 3403A, 3403B, etc. Richard? > > :) > > > > john > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > > Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > > si vis pacem, para bellum > > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 06:45:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 00:27:39 -0800 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] mercedes Diesels - years to avoid? I slightly prefer the handling and fit and finish of my old 115, although the 124 has a more luxury interior (and, of course, more power, although my 115 does better at the low end, due to its greater bore stroke). Never cottoned to the styling (outside or inside) of the 123, and the 126 just feels too bloated to me. The 124 does have much better mpg than my 115, and the extra power makes the difference for a less stressful road trip experience (especially going over mountains). To comment on another related thread, my (1993) 124 has indeed had a few more problems than John's 1991, but I think that is more from Chicago rust and previous owner neglect than from initial factory quality. - -bkc Lynnwood, WA (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] On Sat Feb 26, 2011, John Meister wrote: > > agreed the 124 is likely the best, at least within most of our budget ranges... > > there's things I really like about the 201. it's nimbleness, > it's size... it's feel... but the 124 is so much more refined, professional, > better quality, better ride and maybe the same handling capability... in the right hands... > > but you're right about the economy feel... it's not up to snuff with the 124. > > which kind of leads me to the idea of a 124, but they get 30... the 201 should get > 32-34... while the jetta mk IV gets 38+ > > my son came up with an interesting thought... is there any way I can operate the > clutch with a hand lever? That would solve the problem... > > anyone familiar with handicap aids? I know they have them for the brake and the > go pedal, but why not the clutch? > > I recall seeing something with a clutch on the gear shift... don't recall where > it was... > > despite the rubber band and "economy" feel of the jetta, it is a decent car... > if I had a hand lever for the clutch that could be used when my back is acting > up that would work great... > > who does one see about such things? I wonder if the VA would know? I'm a > disabled viet nam era vet, but make too much money to receive any benefits... but they > may know of a supplier... > > not sure why I didn't think of that before... guess I could design something to > engage the clutch, servo motor, linkage... the clutch is easy to operate... would > like to have it both ways though... that way when I'm talking on my cell and drinking > a latte and eating a big mac I won't have as much trouble as jim is going to give > me for even suggesting such a thing... ;) > > google time... key words??? > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sat, 26 Feb 2011, Michael Frank wrote: > > # Having owned a 123, a 124, a 201 and a 210, I have to say that the 124 was > # the best of the best. The little 190D turbo is a rugged, fun car. But there's > # a certain, shall we say, "economy" to the design that puts it a cut below > # it's bigger brothers. > # > # Mike Frank > # > # At 10:49 PM 2/26/2011, john wrote: > # > # > # >or should W201 be listed also as good, maybe better than 123 or 126... I'd > # >have to say so, > # >at least for economy... thoughts? > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3403 **********************************