From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Thu Mar 31 06:42:44 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, March 31 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3428 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] must read... [db] '92 300sD [db] RE: [WJ-Grand] must read... Re: [db] '92 300sD Re: [db] RE: [CJ-10List] time to go car shopping... [none] Re: [db] '92 300sD [db] Re: Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. 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I must read this over and over again until I have replaced my 300D... :) http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/W210-comments.txt keep me on the straight and narrow gents... :) under consideration: another Mercedes Diesel, VW Jetta (AT, newer), Honda, Subaru. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 20:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] '92 300sD here's the dealer's ad.... which engine is this? which chassis? should I run, or look? if this is the 3.5, I'm running... but wouldn't that be the 350SD??? it almost looks like a 124 chassis... is it still the 126??? heading for the books... john 1992 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY SEDAN - $6775 (2 OWNER / TURBO DIESEL !!!) ***HARD TO FIND THESE CARS*** 2 OWNERS . CAR-FAX CERTIFIED, NO ACCIDENTS, OVER $25K IN SERVICE RECIEPTS IN A 3 RING BINDER, ALL WORK PREFORMED @ PHIL SMART MERCEDES, OVER $5000 SPENT IN LAST SIX MONTHS ON MAJOR SERVICE. IT IS A TURBO DIESEL, SO THIS CAR HAS IT ALL...............EVERY POWER OPTION, GREAT FUEL ECONOMY AND RELIABILTY!! POWER MOON ROOF, PLUSH LEATHER INTERIOR, BLACK ON BLACK, LIKE NEW ALL SEASON RADIALS ON FACTORY ALLOY WHEELS. NON-SMOKER, ALL FACTORY BOOKS, AND MUCH MORE. THIS CAR WAS $70,000 NEW !! NOT TOO MANY OF THESE FOR SALE ANYWHERE, LET ALONE THIS CLEAN. FINANCING AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF YOUR CREDIT HISTORY, AND I WILL TAKE YOUR TRADE IN, PAID FOR OR NOT !! ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:07:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] RE: [WJ-Grand] must read... I'm comfortable working on Mercedes... have many of the shop manuals, learning more about the way they think... VW isn't bad either... she want something that's reliable, has nice paint and an automatic... she won't drive my pickup. :) I told her it's reliable and has good paint, but that didn't seem to matter. :) a 92 300SD has the horrible 3.5L ovalling cylinder atrocity for a TD, right? why don't they call it a 350SD then? :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, dave wrote: # >From what I read from that site is to make sure you have a good bank account # ready for a MB! ;-) # # # # I think your wife is thrown into this equation. What does she want? # # I know automatic but will she drive anything except a FSJ? # # # # What are YOU willing to work on that she will drive? # # New Jettas start at only $16K. ;-) # # But the TDIs start at around $25K. 8^( # # # # later, # # dave AKA vwdoc1 # # _____ # # From: WJ-Grand@yahoogroups.com [mailto:WJ-Grand@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf # Of john # Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:26 PM # To: diesel-benz list # Cc: WJ-Grand@yahoogroups.com; full size jeep list # Subject: [WJ-Grand] must read... # # # # # # I must read this over and over again until I have replaced my 300D... :) # # http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/W210-comments.txt # # keep me on the straight and narrow gents... :) # # under consideration: another Mercedes Diesel, VW Jetta (AT, newer), Honda, # Subaru. # # john # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ---------------------------------------------------------- # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 21:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] '92 300sD that's what it looks like... but I'm getting conflicting engine info... it appears that with it's service history it's likely the 3.5L TD, which is very bad news on so many levels... if it's the 3.0L TD then I will be at the credit union before I shut it off... ;) I've had a 126, they're ok... actually got better mileage with it than my 123. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: # Its probably a 140: # # Wikipedia: The W126 generation was replaced by the W140 in 1992, although a satellite factory in South Africa is known to have continued production until 1994. The different body styles of the W126 S-Class achieved a combined sales total of 892,123 units (818,063 sedans and 74,060 coupis), making the W126 the most popular S-Class ever produced. # # # # # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "john" # To: "diesel-benz list" # Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:29:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific # Subject: [db] '92 300sD # # here's the dealer's ad.... which engine is this? which chassis? # # should I run, or look? if this is the 3.5, I'm running... but wouldn't that be the 350SD??? # # it almost looks like a 124 chassis... is it still the 126??? heading for the books... # # john # # # # 1992 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY SEDAN - $6775 (2 OWNER / TURBO DIESEL !!!) # # ***HARD TO FIND THESE CARS*** 2 OWNERS . CAR-FAX CERTIFIED, NO ACCIDENTS, # OVER $25K IN SERVICE RECIEPTS IN A 3 RING BINDER, ALL WORK PREFORMED @ PHIL SMART MERCEDES, # OVER $5000 SPENT IN LAST SIX MONTHS ON MAJOR SERVICE. IT IS A TURBO DIESEL, SO # THIS CAR HAS IT ALL...............EVERY POWER OPTION, GREAT FUEL ECONOMY AND RELIABILTY!! # POWER MOON ROOF, PLUSH LEATHER INTERIOR, BLACK ON BLACK, LIKE NEW ALL SEASON RADIALS ON FACTORY # ALLOY WHEELS. NON-SMOKER, ALL FACTORY BOOKS, AND MUCH MORE. # # THIS CAR WAS $70,000 NEW !! # # # NOT TOO MANY OF THESE FOR SALE ANYWHERE, LET ALONE THIS CLEAN. FINANCING AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF YOUR CREDIT # HISTORY, AND I WILL TAKE YOUR TRADE IN, PAID FOR OR NOT !! # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 12:33:57 +0100 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] RE: [CJ-10List] time to go car shopping... considered changing my '01 CLK 200K for an X-type diesel recently.. but.. just can't bring myself to do it, its great.. ;-) On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:14 AM, Paul Masterson wrote: > I really, really am liking my 2003 e320. > > > Just saying... > > > > Paul > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" > To: > Cc: "diesel-benz list" > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:18 PM > Subject: [db] RE: [CJ-10List] time to go car shopping... > > > the word on the diesel-benz list is that after '95 and before '03 you want >> to stay >> clear of mercedes... '99 was the worst year. I looked at a '97 e300 and >> everything >> mentioned as issues were found on the car... some very expensive issues... >> theoretically >> they had been addressed on the car I looked at, but at that time I had a >> fully functional >> '91. ;) >> >> I may consider finding a rusted '91-93 with the same engine from back east >> and doing >> a transplant... or selling my rust free excellent body to someone back >> east... >> >> may look at a newer jetta (gas) tonight... this will be my wife's car... >> I've got >> my TDI wagon and my J10, and my other J10 when it's finished... >> >> >> >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Scott MacMoyle wrote: >> >> # 4 grand isn't enough. Had a 98 E300. Loved it but even that is getting a >> # little long in the tooth. Bite the bullet. Get a car payment. >> # >> # >> # >> # From: CJ-10List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CJ-10List@yahoogroups.com] On >> Behalf >> # Of john >> # Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:02 PM >> # To: undisclosed-recipients: >> # Subject: [CJ-10List] time to go car shopping... >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # just got back from the shop... the '91 300D is toast... >> # >> # it appears to have spit up a crank bearing... >> # they pulled the pan today and found chunks of metal from the oil pump >> chain, >> # but >> # there were also pieces of brass in there that looked like crank bearing >> # material. >> # >> # ...losing an oil pump at 60mph in a turbo Diesel is not usually a good >> # thing... we may >> # try to stuff a new chain on the oil pump and see what happens... to >> rebuild >> # it would >> # cost up to 5K. A replacement engine can be had for about 2k, with >> another 1k >> # to >> # install... into a car worth maybe 4k... :( we'll see if my son can get >> it >> # running >> # and how well it does... not optimistic after seeing the debris field. >> # >> # So, I'll be putting the tires on my VW Jetta (same size, new Pirellis), >> # pulling the >> # stereo, Euro headlights, alarm system and maybe the seats... >> # >> # the car has 268,000 miles on it... has been quite a good car... but the >> a/c >> # leaked and >> # the cruise didn't work... we've had to for seven years... put over 100k >> on >> # it... got our >> # money's worth... this is the first time it's failed us... >> # >> # SO, WHAT ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A "NEW" CAR that is: >> # >> # - not a clunker >> # - doesn't have a lot of miles >> # - is an automatic >> # - maybe all wheel or 4 wd >> # - gets reasonable economy (over 20 mpg in town) >> # - likely a 4dr >> # - has a/c >> # - is respectable >> # - is reliable >> # - is clean >> # >> # If I could find a decent car around $4k that would be great... but I'm >> # thinking we'll >> # end up spending more than that... We started to lament the sale of the >> WJ >> # but the >> # mechanic at the shop said I did a good thing, the 4.7's are starting to >> get >> # a very >> # bad reputaion... although the one we had was and is superb... but he >> makes a >> # good >> # point, and the economy was horrible in town. >> # >> # VERY IMPORTANT, WHAT SHOULD WE AVOID? - brands, models, years? (know to >> # avoid '96-'03 Mercedes) >> # >> # What would you recommend? >> # >> # I'm open to ideas and ignorant about most vehicles except older mercedes >> and >> # jeeps... not likely >> # we'll get another Jeep... maybe another mercedes Diesel... but >> considering >> # that this will be my >> # wife's car I don't think we can afford what she'd be willing to drive. >> # >> # Meanwhile the Jetta Wagon is doing fine... unfortunately it's a stick, >> wife >> # can't drive a stick >> # and has no interest in learning how to do so... I taught her in Germany >> how >> # to drive the BMW... after >> # a few near death experiences we agreed she should drive an automatic... >> :) I >> # prefer automatics as well. >> # >> # thanx for your advice, warnings and leads... we have a couple of free >> # tickets on alaska and would be >> # willing to fly out and drive back... >> # >> # john >> # >> # ----- >> # ---------------------------------------------------------- >> # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> # ---------------------------------------------------------- >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # >> # [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> # >> # >> # >> # ------------------------------------ >> # >> # To View Pictures stored at the webiste go to: >> # http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CJ-10List and click "photos"Yahoo! 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The tires were a little flat, but. *** It started instantly **** :) - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:36:56 -0500 From: Alec Cordova Subject: Re: [db] '92 300sD That would be the first US year of the W140 with its double-pane side windows, etc., so I'm not sure about general troublesomeness. That's also the 3.5 liter engine. See for example http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/9105.shtml. I think I've heard that later factory replacement engines were reliable, but I'm really not sure. That's certainly worth investigating though. Alec On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:09 PM, john wrote: > that's what it looks like... > > but I'm getting conflicting engine info... it appears that with it's service > history it's likely the 3.5L TD, > which is very bad news on so many levels... > > if it's the 3.0L TD then I will be at the credit union before I shut it off... > ;) > > I've had a 126, they're ok... actually got better mileage with it than my 123. > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: > > # Its probably a 140: > # > # Wikipedia: The W126 generation was replaced by the W140 in 1992, although > a satellite factory in South Africa is known to have continued production > until 1994. The different body styles of the W126 S-Class achieved a combined > sales total of 892,123 units (818,063 sedans and 74,060 coupis), making the > W126 the most popular S-Class ever produced. > # > # > # > # > # > # ----- Original Message ----- > # From: "john" > # To: "diesel-benz list" > # Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 8:29:46 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > # Subject: [db] '92 300sD > # > # here's the dealer's ad.... which engine is this? which chassis? > # > # should I run, or look? if this is the 3.5, I'm running... but wouldn't > that be the 350SD??? > # > # it almost looks like a 124 chassis... is it still the 126??? heading for > the books... > # > # john > # > # > # > # 1992 MERCEDES 300 SD LUXURY SEDAN - $6775 (2 OWNER / TURBO DIESEL !!!) > # > # ***HARD TO FIND THESE CARS*** 2 OWNERS . CAR-FAX CERTIFIED, NO ACCIDENTS, > # OVER $25K IN SERVICE RECIEPTS IN A 3 RING BINDER, ALL WORK PREFORMED @ PHIL > SMART MERCEDES, > # OVER $5000 SPENT IN LAST SIX MONTHS ON MAJOR SERVICE. IT IS A TURBO DIESEL, > SO > # THIS CAR HAS IT ALL...............EVERY POWER OPTION, GREAT FUEL ECONOMY > AND RELIABILTY!! > # POWER MOON ROOF, PLUSH LEATHER INTERIOR, BLACK ON BLACK, LIKE NEW ALL > SEASON RADIALS ON FACTORY > # ALLOY WHEELS. NON-SMOKER, ALL FACTORY BOOKS, AND MUCH MORE. > # > # THIS CAR WAS $70,000 NEW !! > # > # > # NOT TOO MANY OF THESE FOR SALE ANYWHERE, LET ALONE THIS CLEAN. FINANCING > AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF YOUR CREDIT > # HISTORY, AND I WILL TAKE YOUR TRADE IN, PAID FOR OR NOT !! > # > # > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > # tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 08:42:29 -0500 From: Alec Cordova Subject: [db] Re: As "the kids" might write, OM617 FTMFW! You added a trickle charger on that one, right? If so, seems like it was a good choice. Alec On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Jerry Kaidor wrote: > Well, > > It's been a long winter. Yesterday, I stopped by the airport in Stockton > to check out my '81 300SD, which has been sitting - and sitting. Been at > least two months since I was there last, maybe three. The tires were a > little flat, but. > > *** It started instantly **** > > :) > > - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3428 **********************************