From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Mon Apr 4 20:52:29 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Tuesday, April 5 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3429 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Re: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L, AWD, Leather, 116k miles [db] digests on wagoneers.com? Re: [db] Re: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L, AWD, Leather, 116k miles [db] RE: digests on wagoneers.com? [db] Re: fsj: digests on wagoneers.com? [db] digests organized on wagoneers.com Re: [db] senior moment, missed the symptoms of impending doom... Re: [db] senior moment, missed the symptoms of impending doom... Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:35:49 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L, AWD, Leather, 116k miles I like the early models as well... I may look into getting one, they're cheaper and install a Diesel into one... ;) actually, snooping around on line I found that Toyota had the Diesel in the RAV4, just not here... blasted tree hugging pot smoking morons... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 3 Apr 2011, Bruce Caruthers wrote: # Wow, the RAV4 has gotten big since I last paid attention to it! # # I was part of an evaluation program (1995? 1996?) which blind-tested several new-design/upcoming SUVs over several weeks. They were fully debadged (or in the case of the RAV4, completely new) and all painted white. The RAV4 was my favorite back then for its drive, stability, and user-friendliness, with its only drawback being 2-door and too little cargo area. They revealed which was what at the end. Jeep Grand Cherokee was my overall favorite of the test vehicles at the time. (My own cars at the time were the 1976 W115 and the 1995 Subaru Legacy wagon.) # # If they stayed true to its initial design elements, sounds like a good choice! # # -bkc # Lynnwood, WA # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] # # # On Sun Apr 03, 2011, John Meister wrote: # > # > based on input from list members and my son in law... # > # > we decided to go with a Rav4. # > # > pictures at: http://fotomeister.us/2011/04-Apr-03-Rav4/ALL.html # > # > This has everything we were looking for... # > comfortable leather seats, all wheel drive, 23/27 mpg economy, nice paint, # > regular gas, timing chain, etc. Great visibility, quiet, nice ride, and immaculate. # > # > This car has been amazingly well cared for. They have every receipt for this vehicle, # > and the original window sticker. It is so quiet when it runs that my wife didn't realize it was running. # > # > I've always liked the idea of the Rav4s and I may go for an earlier model at some point in the future for me. # > # > The visibility is superb, much better than our WJ, quieter than the WJ, but I think the ride over # > bumps was better on the WJ, little more isolated from the road... # > # > I know from the experience of a friend that the transmission should not be abused by towing, but could. # > The seats are amazing... perfect fit for my back and just the right amount of softness, not very # > adjustable though. # > # > The engine bay is completely accessible, top and bottom, spark plugs/coils easy to get to... I will be # > able to make any repairs with no problems. Simple and even elegant in design... lots of plumbing, but # > some how easy to decipher. I doubt this car will need much in the way of repairs. # > # > # > I appreciate all the inputs, ideas, warnings, suggestions and encouragement... # > we paid just over high book, but considering we have the complete history and five extra tires mounted # > I am not complaining... I did talk the guy down $200 so my Bohemian upbringing is still in effect. # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > Subject: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L AWD, Leather, 116k miles # > We are the 2nd Owner of this RAV4. The first owner was my mother who purchased it as # > custom ordered and brand new. She serviced regularly at Toyota of Kirkland. Records are available. # > Clean Title, Never had any accidents # > 4WD/AWD # > 4-Cylinder Engine # > Automatic Transmission # > ~116k Original Miles # > "L" Package # > Silver Exterior w/ Two Tone Paint (Gray) # > Gray Leather Interior (Interior is spotless and clean!) # > Leather Wrapped Shifter and Steering Wheel # > ABS # > Power Windows, Locks, and Mirrors # > Toyota Hood Protector # > Running Boards # > Alloy Wheels # > Non-Smoking and No Pets # > Oil changes were religiously changed every +/- 3,000 miles # > Cons: Back Left Rear Bumper Has Small Dent # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 23:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] digests on wagoneers.com? as far as I know Richard archives the digests on digest.net... I've been saving them on wagoneers.com since pretty much the begging of all three... with the FSJ list going back before digest.net. The question I have is does anyone use the digests on wagoneers.com? If I were to nuke them from my server would anyone miss them? I use them every now and then... but if they weren't there it wouldn't be the end of the world... it's funny that when I google for information they don't show up... not sure why that is... I don't think I have those directories blocked to robots. Anyway, just thinking about housekeeping... if it's not a big demand item it's gone. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:50:11 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: [db] Re: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L, AWD, Leather, 116k miles it's the same length as the Jeep Cherokee, and 2" narrower... but gets nearly 10 mpg more... On 04/03/2011 11:32 PM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > Wow, the RAV4 has gotten big since I last paid attention to it! > > I was part of an evaluation program (1995? 1996?) which blind-tested several new-design/upcoming SUVs over several weeks. They were fully debadged (or in the case of the RAV4, completely new) and all painted white. The RAV4 was my favorite back then for its drive, stability, and user-friendliness, with its only drawback being 2-door and too little cargo area. They revealed which was what at the end. Jeep Grand Cherokee was my overall favorite of the test vehicles at the time. (My own cars at the time were the 1976 W115 and the 1995 Subaru Legacy wagon.) > > If they stayed true to its initial design elements, sounds like a good choice! > > -bkc > Lynnwood, WA > (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT > (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] > > > On Sun Apr 03, 2011, John Meister wrote: > >> based on input from list members and my son in law... >> >> we decided to go with a Rav4. >> >> pictures at: http://fotomeister.us/2011/04-Apr-03-Rav4/ALL.html >> >> This has everything we were looking for... >> comfortable leather seats, all wheel drive, 23/27 mpg economy, nice paint, >> regular gas, timing chain, etc. Great visibility, quiet, nice ride, and immaculate. >> >> This car has been amazingly well cared for. They have every receipt for this vehicle, >> and the original window sticker. It is so quiet when it runs that my wife didn't realize it was running. >> >> I've always liked the idea of the Rav4s and I may go for an earlier model at some point in the future for me. >> >> The visibility is superb, much better than our WJ, quieter than the WJ, but I think the ride over >> bumps was better on the WJ, little more isolated from the road... >> >> I know from the experience of a friend that the transmission should not be abused by towing, but could. >> The seats are amazing... perfect fit for my back and just the right amount of softness, not very >> adjustable though. >> >> The engine bay is completely accessible, top and bottom, spark plugs/coils easy to get to... I will be >> able to make any repairs with no problems. Simple and even elegant in design... lots of plumbing, but >> some how easy to decipher. I doubt this car will need much in the way of repairs. >> >> >> I appreciate all the inputs, ideas, warnings, suggestions and encouragement... >> we paid just over high book, but considering we have the complete history and five extra tires mounted >> I am not complaining... I did talk the guy down $200 so my Bohemian upbringing is still in effect. >> >> john >> >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum >> tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas >> http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> Subject: 2001 Toyota RAV4 L AWD, Leather, 116k miles >> We are the 2nd Owner of this RAV4. The first owner was my mother who purchased it as >> custom ordered and brand new. She serviced regularly at Toyota of Kirkland. Records are available. >> Clean Title, Never had any accidents >> 4WD/AWD >> 4-Cylinder Engine >> Automatic Transmission >> ~116k Original Miles >> "L" Package >> Silver Exterior w/ Two Tone Paint (Gray) >> Gray Leather Interior (Interior is spotless and clean!) >> Leather Wrapped Shifter and Steering Wheel >> ABS >> Power Windows, Locks, and Mirrors >> Toyota Hood Protector >> Running Boards >> Alloy Wheels >> Non-Smoking and No Pets >> Oil changes were religiously changed every +/- 3,000 miles >> Cons: Back Left Rear Bumper Has Small Dent ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:18:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] RE: digests on wagoneers.com? just looked on digest.net... the archives don't exist after '98. guess I'll continue maintaining them on wagoneers.com ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # Oh, I get it. Right, no need for duplication. # # - Landon # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john@wagoneers.com] # Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:17 PM # To: Tesar Landon-R16884 # Subject: RE: digests on wagoneers.com? # # if they're on digest.net and complete, sure, no reason to drive traffic to my site unless I get serious about advertising... # # having the history there is kind of nice though... mostly automated... # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Tesar Landon-R16884 wrote: # # # I have used the archive 5 times in 10 years. There is some good stuff there. Should we suggest IFSJA have them for pearls of wisdom before deletion? Would you really just wipe them away? # # # # - Landon # # # # -----Original Message----- # # From: owner-fsj@digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj@digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 1:40 AM # Subject: fsj: digests on wagoneers.com? # # # # as far as I know Richard archives the digests on digest.net... # # # # I've been saving them on wagoneers.com since pretty much the begging of all three... with the FSJ list going back before digest.net. # # # # The question I have is does anyone use the digests on wagoneers.com? # # # # If I were to nuke them from my server would anyone miss them? # # # # I use them every now and then... but if they weren't there it wouldn't be the end of the world... it's funny that when I google for information they don't show up... not sure why that is... I don't think I have those directories blocked to robots. # # # # # # Anyway, just thinking about housekeeping... if it's not a big demand item it's gone. # # # # john # # # # # # # # ----- # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # # tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:20:52 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: fsj: digests on wagoneers.com? useful. # "tf727" site: wagoneers.com however, no need, I have google search on the site, if you go to http://wagoneers.com you'll see it in the middle, it can search any one of the three domains. Diesel Benz will be under johnmeister.com xj and fsj under wagoneers.com unfortunately I haven't really named my pictures coherently so fotomeister.us searching will be pointless. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Michel Balea wrote: # using gaggle, you can force the search to a specific site, such as looking # for TF727 # # "tf727" site: wagoneers.com # # Michel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:52:02 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] digests organized on wagoneers.com because I couldn't find any archives on digest.net and have been saving almost every digest since we've either moved or started these lists to digest.net, I just ran some cleanup scripts, you'll find the digests at: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/ http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/digests/FSJ-3700/ - most recent http://wagoneers.com/XJ/digests/ http://wagoneers.com/XJ/digests/XJ-3250/ - most recent http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/digests/ http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/digests/DBL-3400/ - most recent note: I save the digests as they come in to the top directory, then as the directory fills up move them into the subdirectories, max of 50 digests in each. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 18:04:36 -0700 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] senior moment, missed the symptoms of impending doom... Mine is scheduled to go in to have the chains (and lifters) checked and the chains and such replaced tomorrow. Dealership mechanic highly recommends the chains be replaced after 150,000 miles, for what that's worth (presumably they're overly conservative in that). MB Lynnwood quoted me about $750-900 total. $95/hr labor, 6 hrs of labor, plus the parts. Ask for the discount, they gave me "wholesale" pricing (the $95 instead $120/hr, parts priced like I am used to from Nick and Roel, etc.) - -bkc Lynnwood, WA (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] On Fri Apr 01, 2011, John Meister wrote: > > you know what? > > there were symptoms... > > Paul and Bruce listen up... especially Paul... > > that noise coming from the front that we thought was the belt tensioner... could very well > have been that oil pump chain slapping around... not sure, but it's worth checking... > > there is an access cover on the passenger side of the oil pan... next oil change you two should > reach up in there, or have a mechanic check it... > > I put the 300d up on craigslist for $1200 as is... going to swap the stereo with my J10, pull > the alarm system (that locked us out when we recconnected the battery while prepping to tow, forcing > me to go home for the other key), and the tires with the VW. (both are new, but I think the Pirelli P4s > on the benz are better than the Continentals... right???) > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] senior moment, missed the symptoms of impending doom... doesn't sound too bad... sold the 124 tonight... getting my new tires back, got to keep the alarm and the stereo... :( ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Bruce Caruthers wrote: # Mine is scheduled to go in to have the chains (and lifters) checked and the chains and such replaced tomorrow. Dealership mechanic highly recommends the chains be replaced after 150,000 miles, for what that's worth (presumably they're overly conservative in that). # # MB Lynnwood quoted me about $750-900 total. $95/hr labor, 6 hrs of labor, plus the parts. Ask for the discount, they gave me "wholesale" pricing (the $95 instead $120/hr, parts priced like I am used to from Nick and Roel, etc.) # # -bkc # Lynnwood, WA # (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] # (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT # (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] # # # On Fri Apr 01, 2011, John Meister wrote: # > # > you know what? # > # > there were symptoms... # > # > Paul and Bruce listen up... especially Paul... # > # > that noise coming from the front that we thought was the belt tensioner... could very well # > have been that oil pump chain slapping around... not sure, but it's worth checking... # > # > there is an access cover on the passenger side of the oil pan... next oil change you two should # > reach up in there, or have a mechanic check it... # > # > I put the 300d up on craigslist for $1200 as is... going to swap the stereo with my J10, pull # > the alarm system (that locked us out when we recconnected the battery while prepping to tow, forcing # > me to go home for the other key), and the tires with the VW. (both are new, but I think the Pirelli P4s # > on the benz are better than the Continentals... right???) # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum # > tunc aperuit illis sensum ut intellegerent scripturas # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3429 **********************************