From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Fri Jul 8 15:13:39 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Friday, July 8 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3442 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] 300D oil drip Re: [db] 300D oil drip Re: [db] 300D oil drip Re: [db] 300D oil drip Re: [db] 300D oil dripy Re: [db] 300D oil dripy [db] update on tires: the mizzle report Re: [db] update on tires: and INJECTION PUMP SEALS [db] Re: fsj: Steering Wheel on the Wrong Side Re: [db] 300D oil drip [db] Not Moving Yet Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: [db] 300D oil drip Hello, We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? Crankshaft seals? - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 09:29:33 -0400 From: Michael Frank Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil drip All of these, but the big one for me was injector pump seals. http://www.dieselgiant.com/mercedes_injection_pump_o_ring_r.htm I also had a leak in the oil cooler itself. You have clean everything, then get under there and look Mike Frank At 09:01 AM 7/7/2011, Jerry Kaidor wrote: >Hello, > > We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and >might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with >epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned >concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that >my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). > > What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? >Crankshaft seals? > > - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2011 10:18:25 -0400 From: Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil drip Put a mat under it, much cheaper and easier to clean up than chasing drips. Mine produces a drop from the cooler, a drop from the weep hole on the water pump, a drop from the transmission every now and then. Normal for 20 yr old car. Edward On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), "Jerry Kaidor" wrote: > Hello, > > We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and > might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with > epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned > concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that > my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). > > What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? > Crankshaft seals? > > - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 14:22:24 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil drip My 91 only leaked when the high pressure seals were leaking. - ------Original Message------ From: Edward Pomeroy Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net To: jerry@tr2.com Cc: dbl Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil drip Sent: Jul 7, 2011 07:18 Put a mat under it, much cheaper and easier to clean up than chasing drips. Mine produces a drop from the cooler, a drop from the weep hole on the water pump, a drop from the transmission every now and then. Normal for 20 yr old car. Edward On Thu, 7 Jul 2011 06:01:22 -0700 (PDT), "Jerry Kaidor" wrote: > Hello, > > We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and > might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with > epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned > concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that > my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). > > What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? > Crankshaft seals? > > - Jerry Kaidor __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:33:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Ditwiler Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil dripy The turbo oil return is always suspect. It's a bitch, I'd go for the mat. Good luck on the house. The one I have an offer in on just disappeared from the MLS. I hope I need a mat too! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Kaidor" To: diesel-benz@digest.net Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 6:01:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [db] 300D oil drip Hello, We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? Crankshaft seals? - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 07:44:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil dripy neither of my TDIs leak... don't know if my J10 leaks, can smell burning oil from time to time... but it's parked over by the fence in the grass, well, weeds... if it leaks oil it might help with weed control... :) most jeeps mark their territory... can't tell if my son's 85 300d leaks, he's parked in the gravel, haven't noticed any... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Eric Ditwiler wrote: # The turbo oil return is always suspect. # # It's a bitch, I'd go for the mat. # # Good luck on the house. # # The one I have an offer in on just disappeared from the MLS. # # I hope I need a mat too! # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: "Jerry Kaidor" # To: diesel-benz@digest.net # Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 6:01:22 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific # Subject: [db] 300D oil drip # # Hello, # # We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and # might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with # epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned # concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that # my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). # # What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? # Crankshaft seals? # # - Jerry Kaidor # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 09:48:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] update on tires: the mizzle report mizzling in Seattle, roads wet... new Arizonian Silver Editions are far superior to Continental ContiPros replaced... I could break the tires loose in 1st gear, but it was much easier to hook up than with the Contis, 2nd gear has traction now... unless turning... someone mentioned these tires were an issue on wet roads... I thought maybe the design had been changed over the last 20+ years since the last set, but nope... as good as ever... suspect that the person experienced road film issues common in dry areas... we don't have that problem so much here... especially considering it's not supposed to rain until Labor Day... ;) in other news, a friend shared this link: http://lonestar-mvpa.org/events/2005/05_Katrina.htm and one of my sister in laws in SD shared this: http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/breakingnews/Eyewitness-Fireworks-accident-decapitates-Fargo-man-125083634.html john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] update on tires: and INJECTION PUMP SEALS sometimes the least expensive tire holds pleasant surprises, and the most expensive disappointment... :) going back to the oil drip thing, looked at that page: http://www.dieselgiant.com/mercedes_injection_pump_o_ring_r.htm this can be done WITHOUT removing the intake manifold, or completely removing the lines... have done it three times now: http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/Pressure-Valve-Seal-Replacement-2010/ALL.html http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/Pressure-Valve-Seal-Replacement/ john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, Michael Frank wrote: # I recently had to make a choice of tires for the old 190D. It was a question # of cost as much as anything else. At 300K miles, I have to think that the # fatal problem could appear at any moment. Couldn't see spending a lot on # tires that might end up in the junkyard. So I bought a tire I never thought I # would...Firestone Precision Sports. Didn't expect anything more than # something round and soft. To my surprise they are outstanding. Quiet, smooth # riding, and sticky even in the wet. Now if only the car holds up. # # Mike Frank # # At 12:48 PM 7/7/2011, john wrote: # >mizzling in Seattle, roads wet... new Arizonian Silver Editions are far # >superior to Continental ContiPros replaced... # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2011 22:47:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: fsj: Steering Wheel on the Wrong Side mark, great info! love hearing this kind of history and insight from a real engineer who worked in detroit! thanx for sharing! so driving on the right was one of ford's better ideas? Actually, I think it was... I'd have a miserable time shifting with my left hand... ;) I wonder how I'd do on the Top Gear test track having to shift left-handed, I'm sure it would affect my time... as if... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Mark Wallace wrote: # It was Henry Ford who first put the steering wheel on the left hand side. # (LHS while reading your MG manual). Every Ford prior to the Model T had the # steering wheel on the right except for the real early center steer cars. Henry # Ford put the steering wheel on the left hand side because he liked it there. # With the popularity of Ford cars others followed suit. More of the world # drives on the left side of the road with right hand drive cars than drives on # the right side of the road with left hand drive cars. Most of the world also # uses the silly metric system....to which I respond that that American Flag on # the moon....that was put there with 9/16 and 5/8 and 1/2. # # If you look at a Model T (1908 to 1927) the doors on the driver's side don't # actually open, they are just style lines. You would climb in on the passenger # side and slide across the seat. There was no shifter in the center because a # Model T has a planetary transmission that you shifted with pedals. When you # get into a Model A (1928-1931) the single keyed door lock was on the passenger # side (right hand side) but there was a proper sliding shaft transmission, with # a proper "H" shift pattern. (no syncros yet, they come on line in 1932) For # the first few months of production the Model A still had the parking brake to # the left of the driver as on the Model T. And if you set the parking brake you # will trip on it getting in and out on an early Model A through the driver's # door. # # How we use cars has changed a little bit over the last 80 or so years. # # Mark Wallace # 81 Wag # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 07:27:03 -0400 From: Marc Z Subject: Re: [db] 300D oil drip Hi Jerry, B It seems that common area that leaks is the gaskets at the oil filter housing.B I did this job last year on my '83 300D T sedan and it saved my about 1/2 a quart a month.B Easy to see once you wash the engine.B B There are two gaskets there, one between the oil filter housing and the engine and one under a cover on the rear side. B I also have a leak in the front of the turbo area and will tackle that one soon, once I get the turbo rebuild kit. Marc Z in NC On 7/7/2011 9:01 AM, Jerry Kaidor wrote: Hello, We might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( with epoxy floor paint! ). And the front drive is two-toned patterned concrete. If we actually get this sucker, it will be IMPERATIVE that my 300D not mark its spot ( as it does now ). What are the usual suspects for drips? Oil pan? Oil filter plumbing? Crankshaft seals? - Jerry Kaidor ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 15:08:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: [db] Not Moving Yet > On 7/7/2011 9:01 AM, Jerry Kaidor wrote: Hello, We > might be moving. The new house ( that we have made an offer on, and > might or might not get ) has a gorgeous sheetrocked 3 car garage ( > with epoxy floor paint! ). *** Disappointment. I have just looked at the CC&R's for this property. * No car repair ( except for emergencies ) * No power tools or hobby shops. * No putting stuff in the garage such that it cannot hold the original number of cars. * No antennas ( without approval of the Architectural Review Board ) ergo.... No Jerry. I have instructed my broker to cancel the offer. - Jerry ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3442 **********************************