From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Mon Nov 21 14:02:00 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 22:02:19 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3503 diesel-benz-digest Monday, November 21 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3503 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] commute, snow, front springs Re: [db] commute, snow, front springs [db] Re: Fuel Prices Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:56:11 +0000 From: Stephen Rigley Subject: Re: [db] commute, snow, front springs Any chance they put the rear springs in the front? Have seen it done with Roadsters(Miatas), short springs put on the back instead of the front. On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:00 PM, john wrote: > thanx. > > I took some pictures of it yesterday out in the drive, and then when my > wife drove > off in it... the front is riding high... > > > http://fotomeister.us/2011/11-Nov-19-firstSnow-Cascades-pressureWashing/ALL.html > > if the front is riding high, could it be the rear is sagging??? like an > old mustang? > > either way, something isn't right. :) > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > # John > # > # I will back the Benz out and take if for a drive today as it has been > parked > # for about a month, will see if I can count coils on it, the spring > photo you > # sent seems to show 10 coils, I concur something does not look right, I > don't > # recall my springs curving so much when at full extension but then it > has been > # a long time since I have had it up on a jack. > # > # Edward > # > # On 11/20/2011 2:10 AM, john wrote: > # > the best I can tell though my springs sit on metal, unless > # > the top part is in a rubber mount, will try to look tomorrow > # > > # > > http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/124-series-front-suspension/JM7_7740_2011-11-13.jpg > # > > # > > # > this picture just looks wrong: > # > > http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/124-series-front-suspension/JM7_7743_2011-11-13.jpg > # > > # > thanx all for the measurements and info... > # > > # > my wife finally drove the benz today and loves the power... doesn't > mind > # > the little wobble... > # > so I may be back in the jetta and it'll all work out fine... will > still > # > try to fix > # > the benz though, but won't be as annoyed by it. :) it is a > beautiful car > # > and in superb > # > condition, so I'm glad my wife has taken a liking to it... > # > > # > I like her little white jetta too, but I think I like that silver > wagon > # > more, same > # > year, but with 100k more miles... both have fresh timing belts, tires, > # > transmissions... > # > > # > white sedan with tan leather heated seats or > # > silver wagon with black leather heated seats... > # > > # > I like the looks and practical nature of the wagon but it's not as > tight or > # > in as > # > good of condition as the sedan... but the wagon has a lot more room > for > # > hauling stuff > # > and is easier to deal with wvo in... :) > # > > # > keep the popcorn fresh. :) > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > http://fotomeister.us > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > > # > # That is where they sit in my CLK at least. > # > # Here is what they look like : > # > # > # > > http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/general-mercedes-benz/165137d1204342987-more-lowering-questions-spring-20pads.jpg > # > # > # > # Each of those dots signifies a difference of 5mm. > # > # > # > # Steve > # > # > # > # On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:18 PM, john wrote: > # > # > # > #> no, just looked at my pictures, unless there is one stuffed up > in the > # > #> spring holder up top... > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> ----- > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > #> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they > mold > # > #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > #> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > http://fotomeister.us > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > #> > # > #> # Ha ha! > # > #> # John are there pads between spring and body? > # > #> # On Nov 19, 2011 4:15 PM, "Jim Hoffman" > # > wrote: > # > #> # > # > #> #> Maybe traffic would move along more quickly if everyone > were > # > paying > # > #> #> attention > # > #> #> to their driving instead of taking pictures... > # > #> #> > # > #> #> Just a thought... :D > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > # > #> #> --- > # > #> #> On Sat, 11/19/11, john wrote: > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > From: john > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > Subject: [db] commute, snow, front springs > # > #> #> > To: > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:53 AM > # > #> #> > had to commute down to bellevue > # > #> #> for a > # > #> #> > few days for a class... not as bad as it was years ago, > # > #> #> > but still > # > #> #> pretty bad... what normally takes about 20 > # > #> #> > minutes on a weekend or later in > # > #> #> the evening took about an > # > #> #> > hour... we're talking about 15 miles... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > http://fotomeister.us/2011/11-Nov-18-commuting-124-clearance-SNOW/ALL.html > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > they're widening SR9, taking down trees... they should > have > # > #> #> > widen this > # > #> #> road over 20 years ago... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > also looking at why the front end of my '87 > # > #> #> 300D is sitting > # > #> #> > up higher than what I think it should be... > # > #> #> > sure, I put > # > #> #> lift kits on jeeps and was even considering > # > #> #> > doing it to my jetta, but not > # > #> #> this benz... > # > #> #> > it's stance is wrong... need to figure out why it > # > #> #> > sits up > # > #> #> higher... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > and of course we are having some snow... not likely to > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> stick... but it was nice for it to wait for > # > #> #> > the weekend... :) > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > john > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > ----- > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > #> #> > Snohomish, Washington - where > # > #> #> Jeeps and VWs don't > # > #> #> > rust, they mold > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > #> #> > TRSTGZS > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > # > http://fotomeister.us > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> # > # > #> > # > # > # > > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:05:24 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: [db] commute, snow, front springs Could be, but the question would be who did that? Of course the other mystery is why were the original leather seats removed? :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Rigley Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:56:11 To: john Cc: Edward Pomeroy; diesel-benz list Subject: Re: [db] commute, snow, front springs Any chance they put the rear springs in the front? Have seen it done with Roadsters(Miatas), short springs put on the back instead of the front. On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 4:00 PM, john wrote: > thanx. > > I took some pictures of it yesterday out in the drive, and then when my > wife drove > off in it... the front is riding high... > > > http://fotomeister.us/2011/11-Nov-19-firstSnow-Cascades-pressureWashing/ALL.html > > if the front is riding high, could it be the rear is sagging??? like an > old mustang? > > either way, something isn't right. :) > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > # John > # > # I will back the Benz out and take if for a drive today as it has been > parked > # for about a month, will see if I can count coils on it, the spring > photo you > # sent seems to show 10 coils, I concur something does not look right, I > don't > # recall my springs curving so much when at full extension but then it > has been > # a long time since I have had it up on a jack. > # > # Edward > # > # On 11/20/2011 2:10 AM, john wrote: > # > the best I can tell though my springs sit on metal, unless > # > the top part is in a rubber mount, will try to look tomorrow > # > > # > > http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/124-series-front-suspension/JM7_7740_2011-11-13.jpg > # > > # > > # > this picture just looks wrong: > # > > http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/124-series-front-suspension/JM7_7743_2011-11-13.jpg > # > > # > thanx all for the measurements and info... > # > > # > my wife finally drove the benz today and loves the power... doesn't > mind > # > the little wobble... > # > so I may be back in the jetta and it'll all work out fine... will > still > # > try to fix > # > the benz though, but won't be as annoyed by it. :) it is a > beautiful car > # > and in superb > # > condition, so I'm glad my wife has taken a liking to it... > # > > # > I like her little white jetta too, but I think I like that silver > wagon > # > more, same > # > year, but with 100k more miles... both have fresh timing belts, tires, > # > transmissions... > # > > # > white sedan with tan leather heated seats or > # > silver wagon with black leather heated seats... > # > > # > I like the looks and practical nature of the wagon but it's not as > tight or > # > in as > # > good of condition as the sedan... but the wagon has a lot more room > for > # > hauling stuff > # > and is easier to deal with wvo in... :) > # > > # > keep the popcorn fresh. :) > # > > # > john > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > http://fotomeister.us > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Sun, 20 Nov 2011, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > > # > # That is where they sit in my CLK at least. > # > # Here is what they look like : > # > # > # > > http://www.benzworld.org/forums/attachments/general-mercedes-benz/165137d1204342987-more-lowering-questions-spring-20pads.jpg > # > # > # > # Each of those dots signifies a difference of 5mm. > # > # > # > # Steve > # > # > # > # On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:18 PM, john wrote: > # > # > # > #> no, just looked at my pictures, unless there is one stuffed up > in the > # > #> spring holder up top... > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> ----- > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > #> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they > mold > # > #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > # > #> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > http://fotomeister.us > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> > # > #> > # > #> On Sat, 19 Nov 2011, Stephen Rigley wrote: > # > #> > # > #> # Ha ha! > # > #> # John are there pads between spring and body? > # > #> # On Nov 19, 2011 4:15 PM, "Jim Hoffman" > # > wrote: > # > #> # > # > #> #> Maybe traffic would move along more quickly if everyone > were > # > paying > # > #> #> attention > # > #> #> to their driving instead of taking pictures... > # > #> #> > # > #> #> Just a thought... :D > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > # > #> #> --- > # > #> #> On Sat, 11/19/11, john wrote: > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > From: john > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > Subject: [db] commute, snow, front springs > # > #> #> > To: > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011, 1:53 AM > # > #> #> > had to commute down to bellevue > # > #> #> for a > # > #> #> > few days for a class... not as bad as it was years ago, > # > #> #> > but still > # > #> #> pretty bad... what normally takes about 20 > # > #> #> > minutes on a weekend or later in > # > #> #> the evening took about an > # > #> #> > hour... we're talking about 15 miles... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > http://fotomeister.us/2011/11-Nov-18-commuting-124-clearance-SNOW/ALL.html > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > they're widening SR9, taking down trees... they should > have > # > #> #> > widen this > # > #> #> road over 20 years ago... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > also looking at why the front end of my '87 > # > #> #> 300D is sitting > # > #> #> > up higher than what I think it should be... > # > #> #> > sure, I put > # > #> #> lift kits on jeeps and was even considering > # > #> #> > doing it to my jetta, but not > # > #> #> this benz... > # > #> #> > it's stance is wrong... need to figure out why it > # > #> #> > sits up > # > #> #> higher... > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > and of course we are having some snow... not likely to > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> stick... but it was nice for it to wait for > # > #> #> > the weekend... :) > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > john > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > ----- > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> #> > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > # > #> #> > Snohomish, Washington - where > # > #> #> Jeeps and VWs don't > # > #> #> > rust, they mold > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > #> #> > TRSTGZS > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM > # > http://fotomeister.us > # > #> #> > > # > #> #> > # > #> > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > #> # > # > #> > # > # > # > > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:46:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] Re: Fuel Prices Jim, thanx for the tip... actually the range on 128/132/cathcart way is from 4.05...4.46... :) with 4.19 and 4.27 in the middle. the 3.999 is likely the arco over on mukilteo speedway, but they chargee a fee... shell ranges from 4.15-4.29 fred meyer has it at 4.05 safeway has it at 4.27 the ripoff station at exit 186 on I-5 is 4.46. :) fortunately for me I pass 5 Diesel stops between home and work, with both the lowest and highest prices on that route... fred meyer, safeway and shell at thomas lake seem to swap being the lowest price... then if I go south there are two shells and something else within 2 miles... going north there is another fred meyer, shell and something else, actually there's three Diesel, no, 4 in snohomish, wait, six... so, yeah, no worries... :) I drive around until I find the best price... because I don't have to go out of my way... and what works very well is the fuel stops are all on my normal patterns! yee haw... location, location, location... these guys must have found where I live and planted Diesel stops where I'd have to pass by... :) out of all the years of Diesel driving... since about 1983... I've had TWO experiences with bad fuel... once in Reno (downtown) and once at the overpriced ripoff station on exit 186/I-5... but I think that was a freak occurrence, despite being very, very overpriced, they pump a lot of fuel to fools... well, maybe not fools, but folks that don't realize that less than a mile inland there is 40 to 50 cents per gallon cheaper fuel... when you're not from the area wandering that far off the interstate can be somewhat unnerving or terrifying... especially since you have to go through dark woods... ;) and up a hill... and past a starbucks... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 21 Nov 2011, Jim Hoffman wrote: # John, # # Seems like diesel in your area ranges anywhere from $3.999 to $4.399!! # # That's quite a range. Do you use any price tracking web sites? # # I just gasbuddy.com/ # # Jim # # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3503 **********************************