From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sat Oct 15 11:00:00 2011 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 18:00:00 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3503 diesel-benz-digest Saturday, October 15 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3503 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] carbon dioxide, just another reason for another tax [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] interiors - 124 Re: [db] 300D still won't start Re: [db] 300D still won't start Re: [db] 300D still won't start Re: [db] 300D still won't start [db] =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtkYl0gMzAwRCBzdGlsbCB3b24ndCBzdGFydA==?= Re: [db] 300D still won't start Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 22:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] carbon dioxide, just another reason for another tax got this from a friend in Ireland... seems that with the "new" science of carbon dioxide being a pollutant, they have a new tax revenue source... wonder how long before our elected officials will realize the gold mine in our breath... junk science is made possible and encouraged by our media and education system... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stephen Rigley Thanks to the "Green" party, the motor tax system here in Ireland changed to a CO2 emissions based system for cars registered in 2008 onwards. Band A: http://www.irishlinks.co.uk/lowest-carbon-car-tax-ireland.htm cars that produce 0-120g/km CO2 - 104 euro road tax; Band B: cars that produce 121g - 140g/km CO2 - 156 euro road tax; Band C: cars that produce 141g-155g/km CO2 - 302 euro road tax; Band D: cars that produce 156g-170g/km CO2 - 447 euro road tax; Band E: cars that produce 171g-190g/km CO2 - 630 euro road tax; Band F: cars that produce 191g-225g/km CO2 - 1,050 euro road tax; Band G: cars that produce 226g/km CO2 and over - 2,100 euro road tax Compare this to the "old" system based on engine size : Engine Size cc Annual Car Tax in Euro Not over 1,000 172 1,001 to 1,100 259 1,101 to 1,200 286 1,201 to 1,300 310 1,301 to 1,400 333 1,401 to 1,500 357 1,501 to 1,600 445 1,601 to 1,700 471 1,701 to 1,800 551 1,801 to 1,900 582 1,901 to 2,000 614 2,001 to 2,100 784 2,101 to 2,200 823 2,201 to 2,300 860 2,301 to 2,400 895 2,401 to 2,500 935 2,501 to 2,600 1120 2,601 to 2,700 1164 2,701 to 2,800 1204 2,801 to 2,900 1248 2,901 to 3,000 1293 3,001 or more 1566 As cars registered prior to 2008 are on the old system, someone with a '08 BMW 520d will pay 176 euro tax, while his next door neighbour with a '07 520d will pay 614 euro! So, along with this encouragement to upgrade to a newer car, we also had a government run scrappage scheme, I wonder what kind of emissions are involved in producing new cars + in shipping them here, bet its not as Green as they thought, dust to dust measurement and all that. With my 20year old 1.6 Roadster I'm still paying 445e yet it gets "greener" everyday ;-) There is an upshot though for used diesel lovers... just over 70% of new sales are diesel ;-) http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/strong-start-for-new-car-registrations/ Steve re: Australia parliament passes divisive carbon tax http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/**world-asia-pacific-15269033 Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:28:01 -0500 From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" Subject: Re: [db] interiors - 124 No Sent from my iPhone On Oct 14, 2011, at 11:28 PM, john wrote: > heading over to part out a couple of light grey interior 124's tomorrow... > > sounds like I will have two complete light grey interiors... will a 124 interior > fit in a 123? > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:59:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start > sorry for the added expense... :( > *** Yup. Auto service is mondo expensive. I just don't have the time or strength to do it over myself right now. Shop is all apart, new shop not together yet. Mechanic's verdict is a bad starter. He says only the Bosch rebuilds work. The damage is $390 for a starter, plus $150 labor. Also, he found extremely deteriorated motor mounts, and says they must be replaced for safety. I have also told him to find and fix any and all oil leaks. This is going to cost me at least a grand. Just got Internet working at the new house.... - Jerry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:04:09 +0000 From: john Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start Where did you buy that starter? Want to make sure I don't get one there. We get so casual about stuff we forget to test things before installing. - ------Original Message------ From: Jerry Kaidor Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net To: dbl Cc: Jerry Kaidor ReplyTo: jerry@tr2.com Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start Sent: Oct 14, 2011 14:59 > sorry for the added expense... :( > *** Yup. Auto service is mondo expensive. I just don't have the time or strength to do it over myself right now. Shop is all apart, new shop not together yet. Mechanic's verdict is a bad starter. He says only the Bosch rebuilds work. The damage is $390 for a starter, plus $150 labor. Also, he found extremely deteriorated motor mounts, and says they must be replaced for safety. I have also told him to find and fix any and all oil leaks. This is going to cost me at least a grand. Just got Internet working at the new house.... - Jerry __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:11:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jerry Kaidor" Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start RockAuto.com They had three kinds. I bought the Beck/Arnley rebuild, which was significantly more expensive ( $120 versus $80 ) than the other two. - Jerry > Wher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:25:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start the starter for my SD33(t) engines run around $800, but there's an electrical shop here that rebuilt mine for around $100, not much was wrong with it. they use that starter in forklifts so they are out there and pretty heavy duty. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Jerry Kaidor wrote: # > sorry for the added expense... :( # > # *** Yup. Auto service is mondo expensive. I just don't have the time or # strength to do it over myself right now. Shop is all apart, new shop not # together yet. # # Mechanic's verdict is a bad starter. He says only the Bosch rebuilds # work. The damage is $390 for a starter, plus $150 labor. Also, he # found extremely deteriorated motor mounts, and says they must be # replaced for safety. # # I have also told him to find and fix any and all oil leaks. This is # going to cost me at least a grand. # # Just got Internet working at the new house.... # # - Jerry # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:27:50 -0400 From: "=?utf-8?B?ZWpwb21lcm95QHF0bS5uZXQ=?=" Subject: [db] =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtkYl0gMzAwRCBzdGlsbCB3b24ndCBzdGFydA==?= I have purchasedsome Toyota parts from.rock auto with good results. They should offer.you a refund and take the bad part.back Edward Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! - ----- Reply message ----- From: "Jerry Kaidor" Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2011 1:11 pm Subject: [db] 300D still won't start To: Cc: , "dbl" RockAuto.com They had three kinds. I bought the Beck/Arnley rebuild, which was significantly more expensive ( $120 versus $80 ) than the other two. - Jerry > Wher ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 10:59:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] 300D still won't start in all fairness you can get bad parts from any source. and bench testing a starter doesn't always mean it'll work under full load... went through that with my cj-10a/sd33. The guy tested it, I put it in and it didn't work... he then pulled it apart and found something a little worn inside, replaced that one little part, cleaned it all up and it worked like a charm... I've gotten more bum alternators and starters from mcparts stores than other places... I try to use the dealer for vw or benz parts... unless even their jobber prices are nuts, then I look for a local rebuilder, or try napa or pep boys or a car quest, or even the mcparts places. most of the mcparts places offer different grades of parts, and I find a lot of the stores to have folks that are helpful and often knowledgeable about what works and what doesn't... one of our list members works in one of these chains, and another friend on another list works at a napa and has worked at the mcparts places... it all depends on the part you need and how hard it is to get out. the worldpac type distributors of parts supplying shops is often a good source if you can find an independent that will let you buy parts through them, or if you can get an account. I'm not sure if my account to one of the larger distributors is still active, the co-owner left the company... and I don't have enough volume to qualify... but then again I don't have stuff breaking enough to need it, and if I'm doing work for someone else they're paying anyway. :) speaking of work... it's cold out there, and a bit foggy... and I've got two oil changes and some other work to do... have to be around until the dining room table arrives, then off to get my light gray interior for my yet to be named 124... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 TRSTGZS http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 15 Oct 2011, ejpomeroy@qtm.net wrote: # I have purchasedsome Toyota parts from.rock auto with good results. They should offer.you a refund and take the bad part.back # # Edward # # Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! # # ----- Reply message ----- # From: "Jerry Kaidor" # Date: Sat, Oct 15, 2011 1:11 pm # Subject: [db] 300D still won't start # To: # Cc: , "dbl" # # # # RockAuto.com # # They had three kinds. I bought the Beck/Arnley rebuild, which was # significantly more expensive ( $120 versus $80 ) than the other two. # # - Jerry # # # > Wher # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3503 **********************************