From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sat Mar 31 12:13:00 2012 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:13:12 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3558 diesel-benz-digest Saturday, March 31 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3558 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 13:45:07 -0400 From: Steve Morelen Subject: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo I've been doing some more checking. I'm now believing legit but maybe the CL photos were done by the entity that sold the car to the current owner that is posting on CL. Thanks for the link to the Peachparts site. //steve > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:33:08 -0700 > From: john@wagoneers.com > To: wmpless@primus.ca > CC: smorelen@hotmail.com; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > seems that it lines up... usually scammers don't include details > like that... > > maybe I can talk bruce into buying my '87 and then we'll fly out and > buy this 93... ;) > > oh wait, the 93 doesn't have heated seats... not good... wife has to have > heated seats... > > guess bruce will have to fly out to NC and buy this one then. > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold > buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college > educationb^] > Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, wmpless@primus.ca wrote: > > # sorry, wrong car - it is this one: > # > # > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/315212-1993-w124-300d- > sale-cary-nc.html > # > # -----Original Message----- From: john > # Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:53 PM > # To: Steve Morelen > # Cc: wmpless@primus.ca ; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # Subject: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # > # the grass looks right though... east coast looking to me... > # > # the car does look clean, but no plates... and a lot of dealer like > # stuff, detailing and stickers on the window... > # > # the photobucket name has two 00 after it... matches the yahoo. > # > # since this is on a local CL ad and the price isn't out of line, but > # the even number price is often used by scammers... but scammers > # typically don't put phone numbers in the ad, but do use Yahoo/hotmail/msn > # accounts. > # > # what a world we live in when someone can't even shop for, or sell, > # a used car without only working about being scammed by hidden defects... > # > # and the scammers have even expanded their nonsense to off the internet > # with fake sweepstakes and who knows what else... > # > # one has to be completely on guard at all times... > # > # I guess that's why a list like this is so helpful... at least in > # the realm of old mercedes Diesels... and the same reason I started > # the original FSJ list... so much misunderstood about them, people were > # getting ripped off royally... and the same ignorance extends into > # the world of Mercedes - people immediately assume expensive parts and > # repairs, when in fact many of the parts for Mercedes cost much less > # than toyota, honda or even VW! > # > # one thing I've learned about these Mercedes - if you see non-Mercedes > # parts used on the drive train, climate system, door locks or major > # body parts - RUN away... the ONLY aftermarket part I'll use on a > # Mercedes is the stereo and an alarm to remotely open the doors... > # and power slotted brake rotors... everything else is benz, and except > # of course for the amsoil synthetics. If you look under the hood > # and see stuff clearly cobbled up assume the rest of it has been backyard > # engineered... that's fine for a Jeep, but not for a Benz... look carefully > # at the car and drive the price down, it's quite likely the car can still > # be rescued... > # > # > # OH and like what almost happened to me with that 190D - take pictures when > # you look, and share them, a friend noticed something in the trunk and > # under the car that I didn't notice right away... and explained why the > # back doors didn't open properly, it had been rear ended... there was still > # buckled metal in the trunk and junkyard parts underneath... all benz, but > # it wasn't right... car was still ok, but the price was too high for what > # it was... > # > # Bruce, did the back doors on yours still open and close ok? if so, that > # means that 190D had really been tagged... :) > # > # john > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS > # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold > # buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college > educationb^] > # Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) > # - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > # > # On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Steve Morelen wrote: > # > # # > # # I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address > # listed on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed > Yahoo > # account. I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the > # photos and am having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the > # photos are recent as they should be. I'm also wondering about the display > in > # the windshield..looks like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by > # someone that is meticulous about maintenance as the listing seems to > # indicate. Haven't tried the phone number yet. > # # //steve > # # > # # > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # # > To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # # > From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com > # # > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 > # # > > # # > The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good > sign. > # # > ------Original Message------ > # # > From: wmpless@primus.ca > # # > Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net > # # > To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # # > Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # # > Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 > # # > > # # > Seems to be a nice car -NFI > # # > > # # > > # # > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html > # # > > # # > > # # > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > # # > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:45:35 -0700 From: Bruce Caruthers Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo With Brooke having a major surgery (not related to the crash) and several week recovery (at least) coming up in a couple of weeks, I'm not really looking at anything non-local right now (Seattle, Portland, maybe Vancouver, but that gets into import issues). If we don't find something we like and can afford/are willing to pay for in a month or two, I'll start looking afield... Thanks for the suggestions, though! - -bkc Lynnwood, WA (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT (long overdue to be retired or sold) (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (wrecked, 28Mar12) On Sat Mar 31, 2012, John Meister wrote: > seems that it lines up... usually scammers don't include details > like that... > > maybe I can talk bruce into buying my '87 and then we'll fly out and > buy this 93... ;) > > oh wait, the 93 doesn't have heated seats... not good... wife has to have > heated seats... > > guess bruce will have to fly out to NC and buy this one then. > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, wmpless@primus.ca wrote: > > # sorry, wrong car - it is this one: > # > # > http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/315212-1993-w124-300d- > sale-cary-nc.html > # > # -----Original Message----- From: john > # Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2012 12:53 PM > # To: Steve Morelen > # Cc: wmpless@primus.ca ; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # Subject: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # > # the grass looks right though... east coast looking to me... > # > # the car does look clean, but no plates... and a lot of dealer like > # stuff, detailing and stickers on the window... > # > # the photobucket name has two 00 after it... matches the yahoo. > # > # since this is on a local CL ad and the price isn't out of line, but > # the even number price is often used by scammers... but scammers > # typically don't put phone numbers in the ad, but do use Yahoo/hotmail/msn > # accounts. > # > # what a world we live in when someone can't even shop for, or sell, > # a used car without only working about being scammed by hidden defects... > # > # and the scammers have even expanded their nonsense to off the internet > # with fake sweepstakes and who knows what else... > # > # one has to be completely on guard at all times... > # > # I guess that's why a list like this is so helpful... at least in > # the realm of old mercedes Diesels... and the same reason I started > # the original FSJ list... so much misunderstood about them, people were > # getting ripped off royally... and the same ignorance extends into > # the world of Mercedes - people immediately assume expensive parts and > # repairs, when in fact many of the parts for Mercedes cost much less > # than toyota, honda or even VW! > # > # one thing I've learned about these Mercedes - if you see non-Mercedes > # parts used on the drive train, climate system, door locks or major > # body parts - RUN away... the ONLY aftermarket part I'll use on a > # Mercedes is the stereo and an alarm to remotely open the doors... > # and power slotted brake rotors... everything else is benz, and except > # of course for the amsoil synthetics. If you look under the hood > # and see stuff clearly cobbled up assume the rest of it has been backyard > # engineered... that's fine for a Jeep, but not for a Benz... look carefully > # at the car and drive the price down, it's quite likely the car can still > # be rescued... > # > # > # OH and like what almost happened to me with that 190D - take pictures when > # you look, and share them, a friend noticed something in the trunk and > # under the car that I didn't notice right away... and explained why the > # back doors didn't open properly, it had been rear ended... there was still > # buckled metal in the trunk and junkyard parts underneath... all benz, but > # it wasn't right... car was still ok, but the price was too high for what > # it was... > # > # Bruce, did the back doors on yours still open and close ok? if so, that > # means that 190D had really been tagged... :) > # > # john > # > # > # ----- > # > # On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Steve Morelen wrote: > # > # # > # # I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address > # listed on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed > Yahoo > # account. I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the > # photos and am having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the > # photos are recent as they should be. I'm also wondering about the display > in > # the windshield..looks like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by > # someone that is meticulous about maintenance as the listing seems to > # indicate. Haven't tried the phone number yet. > # # //steve > # # > # # > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # # > To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # # > From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com > # # > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 > # # > > # # > The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good > sign. > # # > ------Original Message------ > # # > From: wmpless@primus.ca > # # > Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net > # # > To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > # # > Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > # # > Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 > # # > > # # > Seems to be a nice car -NFI > # # > > # # > > # # > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html > # # > > # # > > # # > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:04:37 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Steve Be very cautious on Craigslist listings that look so good they are hard to believe. I have now run into 3 scams where the car advertised looked fantastic and the price was right, then on digging into it the story starts to change, well, the car is not in Indianapolis, it is in Florida, well we can't use paypal, how about you use western union to send the funds, etc. etc. Twice with two different cars it was the same lady with the same scam out of Florida, advertising the car close to my location and twice the car was somewhere else and the terms were screwy. Be very careful, I am finding Craigslist to be a hangout for scammers and shady offers. Just my 3c worth. Edward On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address listed > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed Yahoo account. > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the photos and am > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos are recent as > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the windshield..looks > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is meticulous > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried the phone > number yet. > //steve > >> Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo >> To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net >> From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 >> >> The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good sign. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: wmpless@primus.ca >> Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net >> To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net >> Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo >> Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 >> >> Seems to be a nice car -NFI >> >> >> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html >> >> >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:12:31 -0400 From: Marc Z Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Hi Steve, Are you going to take a look at this vehicle? I'm somewhat interested especially since I didn't get to buy a tractor today at an auction. : - ) I can go either way... I'm in Mebane west of you. Marc Z in NC On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address listed > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed Yahoo account. > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the photos and am > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos are recent as > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the windshield..looks > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is meticulous > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried the phone > number yet. > //steve > >> Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo >> To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net >> From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 >> >> The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good sign. >> ------Original Message------ >> From: wmpless@primus.ca >> Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net >> To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net >> Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo >> Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 >> >> Seems to be a nice car -NFI >> >> >> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html >> >> >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:13:09 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo agreed... but I have a hunch this one is legit, whether the car is decent or not can be verified by boots on the ground... :) one way of getting the scammers that post ads with sweet vehicles that aren't in your area, say, oh, yeah, I've got a friend that lives not far from there, give me the address, I'll have him run over and look at it for me... you'll never hear from them again. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 31 Mar 2012, Edward Pomeroy wrote: # Steve # # Be very cautious on Craigslist listings that look so good they are hard to # believe. I have now run into 3 scams where the car advertised looked # fantastic and the price was right, then on digging into it the story starts # to change, well, the car is not in Indianapolis, it is in Florida, well we # can't use paypal, how about you use western union to send the funds, etc. # etc. Twice with two different cars it was the same lady with the same scam # out of Florida, advertising the car close to my location and twice the car # was somewhere else and the terms were screwy. Be very careful, I am finding # Craigslist to be a hangout for scammers and shady offers. Just my 3c worth. # # Edward # # On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: # > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address # > listed # > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed Yahoo # > account. # > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the photos and # > am # > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos are recent # > as # > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the # > windshield..looks # > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is # > meticulous # > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried the # > phone # > number yet. # > //steve # > # > > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo # > > To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net # > > From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com # > > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 # > > # > > The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good sign. # > > ------Original Message------ # > > From: wmpless@primus.ca # > > Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net # > > To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net # > > Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo # > > Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 # > > # > > Seems to be a nice car -NFI # > > # > > # > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html # > > # > > # > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ # # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3558 **********************************