From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sun Apr 1 03:52:00 2012 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:52:43 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3559 diesel-benz-digest Sunday, April 1 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3559 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Re: Bruce's 93 300D rear ended RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:13:52 -0400 From: Marc Z Subject: Re: [db] Re: Bruce's 93 300D rear ended Hi Bruce, I hope that your wife is feeling better. Marc Z in NC. On 3/30/2012 6:54 PM, Bruce Caruthers wrote: > Initial eyeball estimate from body shop is $8-10k in repairs. I'm > guessing that means it will be declared totaled... > > The roof is bulged, the whole unibody is skewed, it crumpled past the > crumple zone. That Domino's driver *must* have been doing more than the > 30 mph limit there, despite the traffic and rainy weather, since he > braked before hitting. Interestingly, the doors all open fine, and the > motor and drivetrain seem okay. > > Transplant might be an option. Otherwise, replacement. Sigh. We liked > that car, and it was good to us. And I just replaced two of the tires, > did the timing chain a little over a year ago, just changed the filters > and oil, etc. > > Here's one option we're considering: > C230 hatchback. Gasser, but lots of diesel varieties globally, so > potential for conversion. AMG made one with the OM642 motor (like the > Sprinters use), so clearly that can fit. > > This listing is pretty much the exact one we would want. (Blue, panoramic roof. Would prefer tan interior instead of black, but it is a decent black.) > > Too bad it ended early. Anyone know anything about these models? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&item=280853343985&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIThttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/?cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649&item=280853343985&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT > > (Heading in to the doctor, as she is having more and more pain.) > > Thanks! > -bkc > Lynnwood, WA > (his) '76 MB 240D [W115.117/616.916] > (hers) '92 Toyota Celica GT (due to be retired or sold) > (ours) '93 MB 300D 2.5 Turbo [W124.128/602.962] (wrecked, 28Mar12) > > > On Wed Mar 28, 2012, John Meister wrote: >> Bruce, and DieselBenz folks... >> >> Bruce's wife was rear ended in their '93 300D this evening... she's not hurt >> badly, but most certainly has a back or neck injury, and they're never fun... >> suffering from a headache, not a good sign... :( >> >> the car isn't driveable... more details below. >> >> >> Here's the pictures Bruce sent, I didn't resize them, just set the img to 95% >> of the screen >> so the details can be seen... I'll post more when more are sent from >> daylight... >> >> http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/BrucesBenz/RearEnded-28Mar2012.html >> >> >> john >> >> >> #> Subject: 300D crash >> #> Brooke was rear-ended tonight (200th St SW& 56th Ave W, Lynnwood). She >> #> seems to be okay, but a massive migraine might be masking injury. Will >> be >> #> keeping an eye on her. >> #> >> #> Hope the car is not declared totaled. >> #> >> # On Thu Mar 29, 2012, john wrote: >> #> Was she able to drive it home? >> >> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Bruce Caruthers wrote: >> # No. It did not sound happy even idling and when we moved it to a side >> # street for towing. Sounded like things were not aligned or something >> # (heavy offbeat thudding, no squealing or scraping). Hoping nothing >> # major, since I don't think it has a high enough book value to repair >> # too much... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:52:25 -0400 From: Steve Morelen Subject: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Went and looked at this car. Anyone that is interested in it should go and look. I've made an offer but the car is still on market as far as I know. It is in pretty good shape for a 20 year old car. //steve > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:12:31 -0400 > From: marcz@pobox.com > To: smorelen@hotmail.com > CC: john@wagoneers.com; wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > Hi Steve, > > Are you going to take a look at this vehicle? I'm somewhat > interested especially since I didn't get to buy a tractor today at an > auction. : - ) > > I can go either way... I'm in Mebane west of you. > > Marc Z in NC > > > On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: > > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address listed > > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed Yahoo account. > > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the photos and am > > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos are recent as > > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the windshield..looks > > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is meticulous > > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried the phone > > number yet. > > //steve > > > >> Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > >> To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > >> From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com > >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 > >> > >> The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good sign. > >> ------Original Message------ > >> From: wmpless@primus.ca > >> Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net > >> To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > >> Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 > >> > >> Seems to be a nice car -NFI > >> > >> > >> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html > >> > >> > >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:23:30 -0400 From: Steve Morelen Subject: RE: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Thanks for the advice Edward. I went and looked late this afternoon and this is a fully legit situation. The seller is very nice and sincere. There is Craigslist darkness though....the seller told me of all the scam-type offers that have been made to him via email since he posted the car on CL. The creeps of the world should be flogged. //steve > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:04:37 -0400 > From: ejpomeroy@qtm.net > To: smorelen@hotmail.com > CC: john@wagoneers.com; wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > Steve > > Be very cautious on Craigslist listings that look so good they are hard > to believe. I have now run into 3 scams where the car advertised looked > fantastic and the price was right, then on digging into it the story > starts to change, well, the car is not in Indianapolis, it is in > Florida, well we can't use paypal, how about you use western union to > send the funds, etc. etc. Twice with two different cars it was the same > lady with the same scam out of Florida, advertising the car close to my > location and twice the car was somewhere else and the terms were > screwy. Be very careful, I am finding Craigslist to be a hangout for > scammers and shady offers. Just my 3c worth. > > Edward > > On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: > > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email address listed > > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed Yahoo account. > > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the photos and am > > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos are recent as > > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the windshield..looks > > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is meticulous > > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried the phone > > number yet. > > //steve > > > >> Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > >> To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > >> From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com > >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 > >> > >> The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a good sign. > >> ------Original Message------ > >> From: wmpless@primus.ca > >> Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net > >> To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > >> Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 > >> > >> Seems to be a nice car -NFI > >> > >> > >> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html > >> > >> > >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 05:45:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2012 06:52:18 -0400 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo Glad it was legit - hope they accept your offer. I am going to invest the 2K to repair the A/C exchange unit under the dash in my 1991 300D as that is now the only item that does not work, repaired the suspension, timing chain, IP, cruise control etc. etc over the past 7 years. so I am actually close to having a 100% operational vehicle :-) Edward On 3/31/2012 10:23 PM, Steve Morelen wrote: > Thanks for the advice Edward. I went and looked late this afternoon > and this is a fully legit situation. The seller is very nice and > sincere. There is Craigslist darkness though....the seller told me of > all the scam-type offers that have been made to him via email since he > posted the car on CL. The creeps of the world should be flogged. > //steve > > > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:04:37 -0400 > > From: ejpomeroy@qtm.net > > To: smorelen@hotmail.com > > CC: john@wagoneers.com; wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > > Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > > > Steve > > > > Be very cautious on Craigslist listings that look so good they are hard > > to believe. I have now run into 3 scams where the car advertised looked > > fantastic and the price was right, then on digging into it the story > > starts to change, well, the car is not in Indianapolis, it is in > > Florida, well we can't use paypal, how about you use western union to > > send the funds, etc. etc. Twice with two different cars it was the same > > lady with the same scam out of Florida, advertising the car close to my > > location and twice the car was somewhere else and the terms were > > screwy. Be very careful, I am finding Craigslist to be a hangout for > > scammers and shady offers. Just my 3c worth. > > > > Edward > > > > On 3/31/2012 11:57 AM, Steve Morelen wrote: > > > I'm feeling something's not right about this....tried the email > address listed > > > on the CraigsList description....delivery failure due to closed > Yahoo account. > > > I live in Cary and am trying to reconcile the background in the > photos and am > > > having trouble. The trees don't look right, assuming the photos > are recent as > > > they should be. I'm also wondering about the display in the > windshield..looks > > > like a dealer kind of thing, not a private sale by someone that is > meticulous > > > about maintenance as the listing seems to indicate. Haven't tried > the phone > > > number yet. > > > //steve > > > > > >> Subject: Re: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > >> To: wmpless@primus.ca; diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > > >> From: fullsizejeeps@gmail.com > > >> Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:14:46 +0000 > > >> > > >> The climate control is set to full heat, that's usually not a > good sign. > > >> ------Original Message------ > > >> From: wmpless@primus.ca > > >> Sender: owner-diesel-benz@digest.net > > >> To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net > > >> Subject: [db] for sale in NC 1993 MB 300D 2.5turbo > > >> Sent: Mar 30, 2012 19:14 > > >> > > >> Seems to be a nice car -NFI > > >> > > >> > > >> http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/2926187702.html > > >> > > >> > > >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3559 **********************************