From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sun Aug 19 14:09:00 2012 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:09:21 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3642 diesel-benz-digest Sunday, August 19 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3642 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Re: C220cdi 2005 (fwd) [db] light out circuit Re: [db] light out circuit Re: [db] light out circuit Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 11:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] Re: C220cdi 2005 (fwd) look what they have in Europe... http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3767556 this thing looks beautiful... and affordable... sure the steering wheel is on the wrong side... ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stephen Rigley To: john@wagoneers.com Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:12:44 +0100 Subject: Re: C220cdi 2005 So, my buddy bought this today, he collects it next week. http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/3767556 Steve On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:47 AM, wrote: > ** > We don't have this model, or at least I haven't seen it. Had a friend that > rented one in Europe and loved it. > > Quality issues with benz were pretty much resolved by 2003. > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > ------------------------------ > *From: * Stephen Rigley > *Date: *Thu, 16 Aug 2012 21:34:51 +0100 > *To: *john > *Subject: *C220cdi 2005 > > Any pointers If looking at one? Buddy of mine interested in one here > Thanks > Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 23:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: [db] light out circuit my son was over this evening and wants to design something to let him know when his lights are out... I remember that mercedes has a way of doing this... of course he wants to know what light is out, but once the basic concept is identified we can adapt it... thanx, john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 10:38:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] light out circuit why not some kind of pickup coil or current sensing loop on each line? would that work? as long as there were current flow the coil would pick up the current and keep a light off or on indictating operation... only thing is how many loops, how to install... it would be kind of like a fiber optic install... non-intrusive... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Edward Pomeroy wrote: # Hehehe - time to dust off the real aincient know how. You need a wheatstone # (several actually) bridge where each light, say the two headlight low beams # make up two of the legs. If both lights are functioning then the circuit is # balanced. If one light fails it unbalances and tells you by lighting a # telltale. As to identifying which of the two are out, the prospect becomes # more expensive as you would need one wheatstone bridge per lamp and you would # have to determine the hot resistance of each bulb to have a resistor to mach # in value on the balanced leg. # # Maybe it would be cheaper to run light fibers to each lamp, tape one end to # each lamp, then run all the fibers to a pattern display on the dash. Any # fiber goes dark you know which bulb failed. This latter method was used in # some high end Cadillacs back in the 70's for dimmer control on the rear view # mirror of all things, so it should work and today surplus light fiber is # cheap and the dash display is just a plastic chip with as many holes drilled # in it as there are light bulbs you want to monitor, in a pattern you can # understand and glue to hold the fiber in place. # # Edward # # On 8/19/2012 2:17 AM, john wrote: # > # > my son was over this evening and wants to design something # > to let him know when his lights are out... I remember that # > mercedes has a way of doing this... # > # > of course he wants to know what light is out, but once the # > basic concept is identified we can adapt it... # > # > thanx, # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation # > http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" # > Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- # # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:08:51 +0000 From: john@wagoneers.com Subject: Re: [db] light out circuit Or he could get out and walk around the vehicle every now ansd then. :) __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Frank Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 16:54:51 To: john Subject: Re: [db] light out circuit You won't induce a current in the pickup unless the main current is varying. But enough windings will create a magnetic field strong enough to pull in a reed switch. Why not switch to LED's? They last ten times longer, although you may go through a few before you find one that's made well. Mke At 01:38 PM 8/19/2012, you wrote: >why not some kind of pickup coil or current sensing loop on each line? > >would that work? as long as there were current flow the coil would pick >up the current and keep a light off or on indictating operation... > >only thing is how many loops, how to install... it would be kind of >like a fiber optic install... non-intrusive... > >john > > > > ----- >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation > http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" >Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >On Sun, 19 Aug 2012, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > # Hehehe - time to dust off the real aincient know how. You need > a wheatstone > # (several actually) bridge where each light, say the two > headlight low beams > # make up two of the legs. If both lights are functioning then the > circuit is > # balanced. If one light fails it unbalances and tells you by lighting a > # telltale. As to identifying which of the two are out, the > prospect becomes > # more expensive as you would need one wheatstone bridge per lamp > and you would > # have to determine the hot resistance of each bulb to have a > resistor to mach > # in value on the balanced leg. > # > # Maybe it would be cheaper to run light fibers to each lamp, tape > one end to > # each lamp, then run all the fibers to a pattern display on the dash. Any > # fiber goes dark you know which bulb failed. This latter method > was used in > # some high end Cadillacs back in the 70's for dimmer control on > the rear view > # mirror of all things, so it should work and today surplus light fiber is > # cheap and the dash display is just a plastic chip with as many > holes drilled > # in it as there are light bulbs you want to monitor, in a pattern you can > # understand and glue to hold the fiber in place. > # > # Edward > # > # On 8/19/2012 2:17 AM, john wrote: > # > > # > my son was over this evening and wants to design something > # > to let him know when his lights are out... I remember that > # > mercedes has a way of doing this... > # > > # > of course he wants to know what light is out, but once the > # > basic concept is identified we can adapt it... > # > > # > thanx, > # > john > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation > # > http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > # > ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > > # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a > college education" > # > Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) RTM: TRSTGZS > # > > # > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3642 **********************************