From owner-diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Sat Dec 15 23:40:24 2012 From: diesel-benz-digest To: diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 07:39:58 +0000 Subject: diesel-benz-digest V1 #3706 diesel-benz-digest Sunday, December 16 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3706 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list [db] tdi vs benz Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 06:45:02 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: [db] administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo@digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone@bedrock.org fflinstone@wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef@bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo@digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone@BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone@bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw@digest.net or bmw-digest@digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty@suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty@krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 23:39:25 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: [db] tdi vs benz giving some thought to a car a friend was looking at a while ago... the deal didn't work out for him... the car is still available on the lot... not sure why it's not selling... well, it does have 245,000 miles and is a problem model year... my TDI has about 227,000 miles, gets about 30 mpg in town... I should replace the timing belt and pulleys early because the PO did not replace idlers and such... it could also use new injectors, upgraded the nozzles and it's doing fine, getting 30 mpg in town with about 20% more power... I figure I could easily spend $1,500 getting it dialed in properly... the '99 E300 has 245,500 miles. should get around 23-26 in town. as far as I can tell it needs nothing... no issues... runs and drives fine, very clean... It's on CL for about $6500. My Jetta is easily worth more... but with at least $1500 worth of service that I WANT to do for peace of mind, doesn't need it... I am thinking that if the benz is as good as it seems I won't have to deal with a rubber band any more, have a nice ride, rear wheel drive... On the other hand, I like that functionality of the wagon... I may drive over to the lot at lunch on Monday and check out the car if my friends here can't talk me out of it... the '99 W210 Mercedes are known to have issues... mostly electrical... have heard it said a few times, there's nothing you can't fix on one of these for about $1500... :) But with no rubber band and all systems working, and with enough miles that would have worked out any defects... I'm thinking it's probably a safe "troubled" year. My Jetta will continue to have issues, minor... ride is ok... kind of fun, etc. I've only ridden in this benz when I checked it out and photographed it... seemed pretty nice... but I will be getting a vehicle that's 3 years older, get about 7 mpg less in town, no where near the 40 on the freeway the jetta gets... likely about 8 mpg less... I'm also giving up my wagon functionality, picking up about 30,000 miles... but am I getting a better car despite the issues of the model? so, the question is... Benz or Jetta? (both have heated leather seats, pwr everything...) thanx, john spec and pictures below... john http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/2002-Jetta-TDI-wagon-vs-99-E300-specs.html 2002 Jetta TDI Wagon - -------------------------- Powertrain Engine 4-Cyl, Turbo Diesel Horsepower 90 @ 3750 RPM Torque 155 @ 1900 RPM Gas Mileage City 29/Hwy 40 Bore x Stroke 3.13 x 3.76 Compression Ratio 19.5 Fuel Type Diesel Fuel Induction Electronic Fuel Induction Valve Train Single Overhead Cam Valves Per Cylinder 2 Total Number Valves 8 Transmission Automatic Drivetrain FWD Transfer Case - Dimensions Fuel Capacity 14.5 gallons Wheel Base 98.9 inches Overall Length 172.3 inches Width with Mirrors 68.3 inches Width without Mirrors - Height 56.7 inches Curb Weight 3009 lbs. Tires / Wheel Size P195/65HR15 Rear Tires / Wheel Size - Turning Radius 35.8 feet Standard Axle Ratio 3.39 Minimum Ground Clearance - Maximum Ground Clearance 4.1 inches Maximum GVWR - Maximum Towing Not Recommended Payload Base Capacity 932 lbs. Head Room: Front 38.6 inches Head Room: Rear 36.9 inches Leg Room: Front 41.5 inches Leg Room: Rear 33.5 inches Shoulder Room: Front 53.7 inches Shoulder Room: Rear 52.5 inches EPA Passenger 86.9 cu.ft. EPA Trunk or Cargo 13.0 cu.ft. 1999 E300 SPECIFICATIONS Base Price $ 41,800 Price As Tested $ 47,000 Engine Type inline 6-cylinder dual overhead cam, 24-valve turbocharged diesel Engine Size 3.0 liters / 183 cu. in. Horsepower 174 @ 5000 Torque (lb-ft) 244 @ 1600 through 3000 Transmission 5-speed electronically-controlled automatic Wheelbase / Length 111.5 in. / 189.4. in. Curb Weight 3640 lbs. Pounds Per Horsepower 21 Fuel Capacity 21.1 gal. Fuel Requirement Diesel Tires P215/55 R16 Continental Touring Contact Eco Plus Brakes, front/rear vented disc / solid disc Suspension, front/rear independent double wishbone with coil springs / independent multilink with coil springs Drivetrain front engine, rear-wheel drive PERFORMANCE EPA Fuel Economy - miles per gallon - city / highway / observed 26 / 34 / 29 (current EPA (12/2012) MpG - Diesel 26 Combined / 23 City / 32 Highway) 0 to 60 mph 8.5 sec 1/4 mile (E.T.) 16.5 sec Coefficient of Drag (cd) 0.29 OPTIONS AND CHARGES Parchment Leather Upholstery $ 1,695 Integrated CD Changer $ 865 E2 Value Added Package: includes glass sunroof and Bose premium sound system $ 1,350 Destination and Delivery charges $ 595 ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - Trust Jesus - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #3706 **********************************