Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:21:55 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: Re: Re. 360 artic. > A stock AMC V-8 (at least all the ones I've seen) have a valley pan/intake >gasket AND a tin heat shield riveted to the bottom of the manifold under the >exhaust cross over. Both are for the reason Mike describes above. > > I would guess that it was 2 to 1 in favor of the stock gasket at the end. >MAny people reported vac. leak trouble with the aftermarket gaskets. On the >other hand, there were at least a few people that said they had experienced >vac. leaks with the stock gasket that the aftermarket gaskets cured. > I just had a thought (a rare moment, too bad it couldn't have been towards world peace or something:) ). I know some of you have been considering converting to throttle body injection. Wouldn't you need to block off the heat riser for this set up? Would that also go for the riser valve in the exhaust? Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:11:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Moake Brian <iw67-at-jove.acs.unt.edu> Subject: Re: Charter member quest and stuff... On Wed, 28 May 97 14:10:02 CDT Tony Hanson <hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com> wrote: > Hey Jeep persons... > What a wonderfool weekend, didnt get a fourth > of what I wanted to get done, but a bad day > out is better than a good day in!! Took > vacation Friday and Tuesday so 3 turned into > 5.(Is that why there were almost 500 offerings > from the list in my mailbox this AM???) I love it... I didn't check my mail Fri. or Sat. and had 240... I am not surprised you had 500. > I heard from Jeff Gunn, alive and well and unwilling > to get rid of his beloved Cherokee no matter how many how much $$$?[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:38:59 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: RE: NOW there's a GREAT FSJ idea... :-) >> >I've been following this saga & haven't a clue what the problems have been. >Alisa's posts have always been regular width at my house. AFter she >modified, it is a few words narrower on the right side but not much. > >Observations from the cornfield, >Mike Saltsgaver > We must be in same cornfield, Alisa's mail has always displayed fine here too! C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:39:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Re: GVW 101 I'll bet you'd be suprised what a stock Cherokee or Wagoneer weighs. I'll bet a stock one is probably 4,500lbs. Ours last time I checked was 5,100 and it's at least 5,200 at the moment, and that's not even with full fuel tanks (we have an aux tank).[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:39:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Chrisharon-at-aol.com Subject: Southern C.A. FSJ meet Is anybody planning a southern CA meet anytime soon? If so, where? Perhaps I've been laxed, but they all seem to be far, far away. Either that or I missed something along the way here.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:52:26 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Ole Bessy on all fours! Hey, everyone. Ole Bessy was sitting on all fours today! Got the rear axle in this morning. Added the two lower springs from the '72 parts Wag to the existing spring pack, making 7 leaves instead of the original 5. Raised the rear end about 2.5". That should settle down to about 1-1.5" which is what I was looking for. Cool! Had to put her down on the ground to measure the driveshaft working length, then raised the rear back up to finish the brakes. The rear brakes are about halfways installed. New shoes, spring kit, drums, and star adjusters. Had to wait a day to find some new adjuster cables. Picking up my new driveshaft tomorrow, from Connecticut Driveshaft. Was going to go w/ Six States, who did the front driveshaft, but ran out of time. This new one should be fine, since I'm going with a thicker wall tubing and heavier-duty slip joint. New Spicer u-joints too. Also picking up the new RS5000s tomorrow. Will have everything put together tomorrow and should be driving Friday! Finally! Just in time for the inaugural NEFSJA outing this weekend! ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:05:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org> Subject: Re: Radio At 08:11 PM 5/28/97 -0500, you wrote: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME where do I send the check? mick >OK first the embarrassing story. Driving home a coupla weeks ago my 2 >year old Kenwood radio abruptly quit playing! Everything seemed to work, >tuning, cassette, seek etc. but no sound. Took out the glove box and >plugged the line level out into a boombox and it played fine. So I >assume that the built in amp is out and go out and buy a new Kenwood 1 >step up. Hook it up to the old pigtail and ..... Nothing! Turns out >there was a speaker wire with striped insulation and it was touching the >body. Kenwood has a protect circuit that would not let the amp come on. >Soooooo > Anybody want to buy a Kenwood KRC-2006 ( or is it KCR?) anyway its a >great radio - AM/FM 18 station preset, seek, auto reverse cassette, bass >& treble. 15 Watts x4, or 25 watts x2. preamp out, everything except >CD-Control(like my NEW one). Paid $229.00 new, ship to ya for $75.00. >Fits FSJ perfectly! ( Note the FSJ content). Even give you new wiring >harness since I used the old one on the new radio.] > >Jeff Herbst >1982 Wagoneer LTD >Texas > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:19:18 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: Shopping List: 1970 Wag Bruce, on my 350 the air conditioning bracket and power steering bracket swivel on eachother, but I think they can be separated. I'll check under the hood tomorrow to see for sure. I've been thinking of doing the same thing since the AC bracket looks ugly. It currently holds the coil (the dual fuel feed on my 4-barrel carb runs right through the area where the coil originally sat); but I want to move the coil to the fenderwell instead. Do you still need many items on your list? With Ole Bessy's axle upgrades nearing completion I will have time to check for those items. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: ck1-at-pacbell.net > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Shopping List: 1970 Wag > Date: Friday, May 23, 1997 1:18 AM > > OK... There have been several really great responses to my posts > for a glovebox door and radiator, so I thought I'd take a 'walk > around' and see what else needs replacement. If anyone has any > of these items, please reply via e-mail with your asking price. > > I'm sure that after the rig gets back on the road and goes > through a complete shakedown, I'll have more to add to the list. > Also, there is a yard here locally that says they have a couple > Full Size Jeeps, and as soon as 'Pinecone' gets OTRA, I'll be > checking those out and posting more about what's available there. > > All items (unless otherwise noted) are for a 1970 Jeep Custom > Wagoneer (1414C393#####). The vehicle is a mid-forest green > metallic exterior with tan pinstripe package, and the interior > metal and upholstery are light tan colored. The engine appears > to be the V8-350 Dauntless 2-bbl model (as stated by the serial > number series), although I haven't been able to get to the > casting numbers yet to confirm this. > > BTW: Can someone tell me if there was an OEM power steering > bracket available that DID NOT have the integrated mount > for the Air-Conditioning compressor ? I might consider a > trade as I don't think I'll be putting the AC back in, > because I'd have to replace MANY of the components. > I'd like to clean up the engine compartment a bit, and > getting this massive steel bracket out would be a BIG help. > > 'The List' begins (episode one): > > 1) OEM or direct replacement Radiator (complete unit) with mounts > No holes please - already got one-o-dem :) > Also Fan Shroud if you have it. > 2) Interior Rear View Mirror (head, stalk, and base) prefer OEM > No worn out joints please (I have enough of those myself...) > 3) Arm Rests (all 4 doors) with mounting screws > 4) Dome Light Fixture and lens > 5) Ash Trays (front drivers and passengers - the ones above the > glovebox) and mounting brackets/slides/fasteners > 6) TailGate Window Mechanical (Electric or Manual) Don't need Glass > 7) Hood Adjustment stops (the bolts with the rubber pads and > plastic 'expand' nuts that fit in body > 8) Right Front Cornering lamp lens > 9) OEM Wheel covers with cutout in front for hubs > 10) HeadLight trim rings and fasteners > 11) Right Rear Taillight - Complete Lower Half housing/trim > 12) Wind Wing Frame - Drivers side (with good latch) > I have good glass, but if the price is right will take all > 13) Defroster/Heater air output hoses > 14) Battery tray and hold-down clamps > > That's it for now. Thanks for taking the time to look through > this list, and please let me know via E-Mail if you have items. > I apologize if the list is a bit hard to read, but I thought it > excessive to put a blank line in between each item... > > | All the Best to You and Yours, > | > 0 | > _|_______|______ > /_|___ | | |\ Bruce LeGrande -KB6LWN- > |==|====|----|---+-\-------- South Lake County, CA > |==|==__|====|=====|===__===| ck1-at-pacbell.net > |____/__ \___|_____|__/__\_<0 (707)987-4737 > / \ / \ > \__/ 28.405usb \__/ > > 1970 Custom Wag 1414C "Pinecone" > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 21:53:50 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: GVW 101 My, my, my....those SJ jeeps are sure TUBBY! My 1961 Willys pickup has a curb weight of 3,500lbs and a GVW of 6,000lbs. Now THAT'S load carrying capacity! Match that. ;-) Landen Schooler[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:59:41 -0700 From: BG <garrison-at-ptw.com> Subject: Re: Southern C.A. FSJ meet Chrisharon-at-aol.com wrote: > > Is anybody planning a southern CA meet anytime soon? If so, where? > Perhaps I've been laxed, but they all seem to be far, far away. I would be interestedin aFSJ meet in SO Cal as well Bert Garrison 78' J-20, 360 4bbl, T-18, D20 Edwards CA[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 21:29:20 PDT From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: GVW 101 ---------- > My, my, my....those SJ jeeps are sure TUBBY! My 1961 Willys pickup > has a curb weight of 3,500lbs and a GVW of 6,000lbs. Now THAT'S load > carrying capacity! Match that. ;-) > Landen Schooler > I think that perhaps that later on they got a little more conservative in parceling out capacity measures then they had in the past due to possible liabilty suits. back in the 60's that wasn't so much of a concern. my guess is that the actual practical capabilities are proabably far greater then an 800 pound carrying capacity. (if I am understanding all this correctly) but chrystler doesn't want some idgit doing summat stoopid, then sueing. Q.E.D Alisa (go ahead make my day rip me apart now. I double dog dare yah!!!!!!!!)[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 23:29:20 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Brad Feick Returns (258 to follow) Hi to all who care! Just back from Bermuda with my beautiful new wife to the harsh reality of work et all... Will be posting some 258 Build-up stuff to complete the section on the web-site, and then will re-write the whole thing to make it more cohesive, as I didn't originally plan to have it on the site, so it needs some sprucing up to make sense in spots... Glad to see that the NE guys are getting together, will be there 'soon as me and Zack install the fabled 258. (Might even have the new bed and roll-bar on!) How is everyone? Feels like I've been away awhile! How do I go back to "regular" mode as opposed to digest mode? Well Jeepers, good to be back in the fray, stay tuned for Mr. Beef's summer of emergence! Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:51:42 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: GVW 101 Alisa Mize wrote: > > ---------- > > My, my, my....those SJ jeeps are sure TUBBY! My 1961 Willys pickup > > has a curb weight of 3,500lbs and a GVW of 6,000lbs. Now THAT'S load > > carrying capacity! Match that. ;-) > > Landen Schooler > > > I think that perhaps that later on they got a little > more conservative in parceling out capacity measures > then they had in the past due to possible liabilty suits. > back in the 60's that wasn't so much of a concern. > my guess is that the actual practical capabilities are > proabably far greater then an 800 pound carrying > capacity. (if I am understanding all this correctly) > but chrystler doesn't want some > idgit doing summat stoopid, then sueing. > Q.E.D > Alisa > (go ahead make my day rip me apart now. I double dog dare yah!!!!!!!!) > Lets try this a different way.......in my 1961 Willys truck I can carry over 2,000lbs and not get a ticket for being over weight. The truck sets level and even rides nice. It also has 10 (ten) leaves in each spring pack, stock! Landen Schooler[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:25:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org>
Subject: SO Cal jeep meet
Hello guys,
I think Karl Striech (sp?) was talking about organizing a meet in
the north of CA. (He was in Napa, if I remember correctly)Hey Karl, are you
still with us?
Anyway, I think we should be able to meet somewhere central. How about the
bay are somewhere?
Any swap meets going on down there? We should have about a dozen people at
least in CA.
I sorta cried off doing the PNW thing 'cos of the time and distance problem,
but would love to meet some of my 'wacky' So. Cal neighbors <bg>
Anyway, if anyone has any ideas, email me off list so the PNW boys don't get
jealous....
Mick
[Back to Top]Date: 29 May 97 01:00:44 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Multi coil ignition system. David Klingenberg <kling914-at-uidaho.edu> writes: >> I hope that you all find this helpful. The few articles that I have read about this type of systems have all been very positive. << You bet. Thanks David. I'm still looking for the "perfect" computer for my injection & ignition system. I have every thing figured-out except for the computer and the crank position sensor. Fel-Pro (the gasket people) just came out with a computer that looks promising as well. Now I have two new ones to check out. We ran into another little obstacle a few days ago. Slid my shiny new custom Manley Race Flo single groove stainless valves into the intake guides and guess what? ...they're too big. Got out the mic. and sure enough 2.12". Ooops...should have measured them a long time ago. Not sure what to do at this point. My new seats are in the heads and have a 3-angle cut for 2.02 valves. I think we'll just turn down the existing valves because having a new set made would take quite awhile. But, this engine is not going to be done this year so...? -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 28-May-1997 at 09:38:32 PDT !^NavFont01F000EMGmHGvMG97HJ5579D0[Back to Top]
Date: 29 May 97 01:00:51 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: cameras (non fsj) "john meister" <john-at-> writes: >> I wish I still had my first SLR, a Canon FTb black body... that was a great camera... << Timothy Cowden <cowden-at-comp.tamu.edu> writes: >> I still have my Canon FTb. A bit battered... but still functional. << Gees...at first I was going to reply to John via e-mail and rub his nose in it a little. But after all the camera posts, I'm starting to feel left out. Since this seems to be a subject with a wide interest base here on the list :-) ....Hey...John....I still have my FTb-n as well and if you're REAL lucky, I might even let you play with it when we finally get to meet....Phhhhhhhhhhhhht. BTW, I know where a black body FTb-n was for sale in mint- condition as of a month or so ago. You interested? Let me know via e-mail if you are (I know it's tougher to send e-mail off the list but, I know you can do it :-) and I'll dig-up the guys e-mail address for you. -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 28-May-1997 at 09:50:35 PDT !^NavFont01F001EMGlHGuMG72HG74MG97HGA0MGD7HIE964C1[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 97 22:45:27 PDT From: "Alisa Mize" <jaamize-at-nwlink.com> Subject: Re: GVW 101 > Lets try this a different way.......in my 1961 Willys truck I can carry > over 2,000lbs and not get a ticket for being over weight. I have never heard of a GW being checked for this problem wieghed or looked at in suspicion of being overweight > The truck sets > level and even rides nice. It also has 10 (ten) leaves in each spring > pack, stock! > Landen Schooler I know that we have loaded up my 84 with over 1300 pounds of sand a canoe, two over weight friends (I would say about 250lbs on each) me (115lbs) my husband (185lbs) plus the two back packs full of food that two said friends brought with them<BG> not to mention the tools that always were in the jeep and it drove fine. I will add to be fair, = that we did add a couple leafs right after we got it. Alisa Mize[Back to Top]
Date: 29 May 97 02:06:58 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: More AMC 20 info from the AMC List I don't know if the following applies to Model 20s in the '80 & up FSJs or not? If it does, it means people like John planning a ring & pinion swap also need new carriers. I always thought the AMC 20's cut-off was around 3.73? >> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:04:08 -0400 (EDT) From: IMTB-at-aol.com To: amc-list-at-scan.si.edu Subject: AMC 20 gear swaps Message-ID: <970528100407_1392384944-at-emout19.mail.aol.com> For anyone interested here is what Ron Waters had to say about AMC 20 gear swaps: Sounds like good news to some of us.. From: rbw-at-netime.com (Ron Waters) Summit is correct... The cutoff point is 2.87.. Gear ratio's higher than 2.87 (higher ratio=lower number ie: 2.73) require a different ring gear carrier... I know that 2.87 to 4.56 AMC ring and pinions use the same carrier (std or posi makes no difference)as I have set up these ratios.. I am told that lower ratios ie: 4.88 and 5 series will also work, but I don't know that for a fact... Ron Waters rbw-at-netime.com TEAM AMX Historic And Vintage American Motors Race Cars << -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 28-May-1997 at 23:04:52 PDT[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:15:17 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: I'll take the email copy...
> scanned them in as group 4 compressed TIF files. This is a black OR
> white format that compresses well. Note that the pictures are a
> little goofy when you drop the gray scale. There are 17 pages
> totaling 1.5 meg. I will be happy to e-mail them to anybody
> interested. They are named 'Page1.tif' through 'Page17.tif' I have
> a program that will wrap them in a viewer if needed. Just let me
> know.
> John & Doc, since I scanned the FAX it would probably be better to
> post
> a scan of the originals for posting if you get permission, but you
> are welcome to them if you want.
Jeff, I'd like to see the article for my own personal use...
please email, and is anybody looking to get permission? I don't
have the time...
john
> Jeff Herbst
> 1982 Wagoneer LTD
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:17:34 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: non-fsj camera thread continues...
> Subject: Re: non-fsj
>
> Would the Zeiss lenses fit on a Contax III?
>
> The original lense for my Contax had that "special" coating....the
> coating had disentigrated and now I have a useless lense.
>
I don't know. They are the standard Yashica/Contax mount, non mm
(multi-mode).
However, I was only kidding about selling them. My wife would never
agree to such a thing... :-) (the Zeiss lenses are really hers, I
have the Tokina and Yashica lenses... however, if I'm really nice
she lets me look at the 135... :-)
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: 29 May 97 02:14:40 EDT From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Ol' White + Old Blue John msgd Eddie......... Eddie to Gord.. > What's the chances of you making it down. Long way, I know. > Still, if you can :) John's reply..... It would be cool Gord. You could translate for Eddie, I know it'll be hard for him to communicate with us down here... eh? :-) (it's like at work, I keep volunteering for those trips to England, I keep telling them I speak the language... :-) (I also try that with Germany too... so far, here I sit...) No need for a translator. I am 3/4 English and can cut through the thickest Jordie accent that a coal miner's daughter can deliver. ( Mom is from Newcastle-On-Tyne and is full of spit & vinegar that makes her almost sound like a " Rob Roy " when she gets wound up <G> ) > John wrote to Eddie............. >I'll post my son near my little wagoneer, instructions: guard the >FSJ decal... :-) You know we're white belts in Tae Kwon Do now... >:-) To which Eddie replies............. Should be quite the match.... My girls are yellow belts in Hap Kido < :0) Look out Van Damme, Here comes the Meisters & the Pedersens !!!! Eddie in Vancouver[Back to Top]
Date: 29 May 97 02:14:35 EDT From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Eddie's Got A Green Light !! Hey gang.......... !! Eddie's cominngg.......................!!!!!!!!! Looks like insurance concerns have been satisfactorily addressed, and now all I have to do is some _major_ " minor" work on the poor beast so that it will survive the trip without me being to worried. <:0 Not sure how many passengers will be with me; possibly my 2 girls, 11 + 13 yrs, and maybe one of my brothers named Darryl. Plans will be for either a very long day trip, or more desirable, spend the night in the area. John M., can you scout out some camping spots, preferably with amenities? Gord & my gang could camp out for the night, rather than chance a breakdown on the hwy in the dark. Gord in Kelowna, If your Mom, I mean SO gives you the go ahead to come down & play, let me know and we'll meet up. I live in west MR, near 203 and Lougheed. You know where the Chrysler + Ford dealerships are, and Burger King ? I am only a few blocks from there. We could meet either in MR or PoCo ( Port Coquitlam, for John) <g> or any other point that's convenient. Let me know................ Cheeky Eddie in Vancouver[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:20:48 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: what's flat?
> Hotel???? Give me a small flat piece of land and I'm fine in my
> tent. May even try the back of the Wag. Still don't know if the wife
> will let me go or not.
>
> Gord
flat??? what's that? I've lived here two years, no wait, three
years and am still looking to find a place that's level... flat?
surely you jest... haven't you seen the pictures??? :-)
:-)
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:34:41 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: let down in list land...
> I just read the last of the 3 installments (still available at
> my local drug store) and feel VERY let down. It was sort of like high
> school auto shop 101A. It really leaves you wondering HOW DID IT
> WORK! What kind of performance did they end up with? What do our
> experienced rebuilders on this list think they should end up with
> for performance based on the parts they used - Edelbrock cam kit,
> manifold, carb, etc.
> Inquiring minds want to know!
>
> -Mike A.
Mike,
I think this is pretty common. I get the same let down reading
computer magazines and books... WHERE's THE BEEF????
It's frustrating to get these magazines and read 'em and not really
get the good information you want... It's rare...
(on the other hand, it's hard work putting a magazine or a web page
together, there is so much more going on then just the content...
style, form, spelling (ha!), layout, deadlines, etc... I know some
of the pages I've put up are terribly pathetic. You guys are too
kind. There is so much more I want to do with this stuff... But
time is always a bitter enemy... Seems like we're all equal in the
time department, but time is still a leveler of men... Some people
just fritter their lives away in front of the idiot box, some of us
fritter it away doing email... <g>, others actually do something
with the time and sometimes even make a difference...
I know I can use a major dose of wisdom in the area of time
management... I could also use some decision making ability, I have
too many interests because I can't decide what it is I want to do...
You ought to look at my bookshelves... there are so many different
areas of highly specialized subjects it's ridiculous... I need to
FOCUS on one, or two things... I'm trying to FOCUS on UNIX at
work... at home I need to focus on my family (hey, what a cool name
for a radio program or something... :-), but instead I keep playing
around with computers, jeeps and so on... But, if I don't do those
things I find myself sitting in front of the tube with my family...
That ain't spending quality time with my family... Turn the tube
off and you have a room full of bored and boring people... sheesh...
the never ending struggles of life and time...
and no, I'm not having a mid-life crisis... I mean having three
jeeps, playing on computers 10 to 15 hrs a day, sleeping for 4 to 5
hrs a day and taking Tae Kwon Do is normal for a 40 year old, isn't
it??? <g>
Oh, yeah, back to the articles... I've found it's hard to get
substance and the essence of a subject out of people that have not
fully synthesized the information. They have a superficial
understanding of the topic, they don't KNOW it... Look at how you
guys kid me about waxing poetic or lyrical about FSJ's, do you think
I could go off like that if I hadn't thought about it a little bit???
(What I should be doing is going off like that about the Bible,
because it's a lot more important in the grand scheme of things...
:-)
well, back to the list...
jon
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:39:19 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: vehicle weight
> A full boat GW with power seats, power tissue dispensers etc ships
> at around 4400-4500 lbs. Yes it is still very heavy.
>
> Not a criticism folks just an awakening. GVW seems to be a pretty
> widely misunderstood number on mail lists, newsgroups and on the
> street. Lotsa folks think they have 3 ton Wagoneers, 7000 lb
> Suburbans or their Chevy 3/4 ton can haul 7200 lbs in the bed.
>
> Shoool is out...
> -jj
Then there are those of us that pull into the Truck Weigh stations,
or sneak onto the Dump Truck scales at the top soil place in the
valley or buy rocks at the yard or haul scrap metal and have our
rigs weighed on official scales... :-)
When you start subtracting the added ballast, you know like wife and
kids, high lift jacks, tools, etc. the weight does drop into that
range you mentioned...
So when I say Old Blue tips the scale at 5,200lbs, that's with the
ballast and maybe a big mac or two... :-)
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:43:35 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: hey brother, can ya spare a few meg???
> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:39:23 -0500
> From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com>
> Subject: Re: parts interchange manual
>
> Not to sound too outlandish, but all totaled we prob have a hundred
> meg of empty (unused) web space among us. It might be a pain for
> someone to link all the disparate sites but it would be free. All we
> would have to do is volunteer our unused space. Maybe those who
> offered up their space could have "charter memberships" and be given
> a discount on the access fee.
>
> =======================================
I'd be happy to use some of this space... I mean 10 meg just doesn't
go as far as it used to...
Seriously, this might be a good way of backing up the FSJ sites,
doc's IFSJA and my ORC -FSJ pages. The orc site is backed up and
has plenty of room, so it's really more of an opportunity for doc to
spread his load, his site is on his nickel...
I'd recommend putting the same files in two different locations, that
way you have mirrored data that is protected against an isp dying or
crashing... (sorry, I spend too much time with computers... just
be thankful I didn't suggest disk striping and RAID5... :-)
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:46:11 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: updated pix???
> Subject: FSJ Coverage in Four Wheeler
>
> The July issue of Four Wheeler just came out and as pictures of the
> Easter Jeep Safari in Moab. There is one page called "Full Size
> Flex" that is pictures of some of My club. Unfortunately I was
> DEEENIIIEEED!!! =8(
>
> However, The Two other FSJs in my club both made it including Miles
> in the "Griswold Family Truckster", and both of them had the FSJ
> stickers on their trucks courtesy of me. =8)
>
> The Photographer that took these pics was a freelance and sells the
> pictures to several magazines so maybe I'll still get picked up
> somewhere.
>
> Brian
Brian, if you have more recent photos, I'll build ya another page,
your stuff was really interesting...
There is an article about MOAB trail techinques in a 4x4 performance
rag I picked up the other day...
Ken's got me thinking about getting our stuff in Four Wheeler too...
Would also give me an opportunity to try my hand at writing a
magazine article...
ttyl,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:57:04 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: lightweight FSJ???
> Joe is 100% correct! I've noticed the same over the years,
> guys look at that tag and go crazy. I haven't put the chief on the
> scales but I'm betting not much (if at all) over 4,000 lbs.
>
> Right on Joe!
> > C'ya
>>
Joe, my little wagoneer goes over the scales at close to 3,800 lbs
with passengers and some tools!!!... Your Chief would probably tip
the scales at around 4,400 lbs pretty easily, maybe closer to 4,600
(and that's without the plow). Git yerself over to the co-op or a
gravel pit or scrap metal yard and get it weighed already... :-)
My 67 Wagoneer weighed in at 4750 front axle 2250, rear 2500
(no passengers in the vehicle, didn't own a high lift jack then...)
my 85 xj td chero = 3,500 front 2500 (w/winch) rear 1000
my 86 xj w/v6 = 3475 1875 / 1600 rear
my 65 J-200 = 4650 2650/2000r
my 81 vw pickup <grin> = 2375 1375 / 1000 rear
my 80 Olds Diesel 4dr cutlass = 3800
my 68 mustang = 3175
my 80 vw rabbit diesel = 1675 (with me in it...)
Old Blue (wife & me in it...) 5,200
All these were on certified scales... some were done by the state
police for registration purposes. some of these weights were
confirmed on two or three scales...
later,
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 23:59:44 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: Allen Lundgren
> From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson)
> Subject: Charter member quest and stuff...
> I tried to email Allen Lundgren, the only
> Texan that was a charter member of the FSJlist
> and it didnt bounce and it hasnt been returned...
> Allen, are you out there sumwars??
>
I haven't heard from Allen for quite a while... He bailed out about
the time the list hit thirty or so... :-)
If you hear from him say howdy for me...
ttyl,
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:02:27 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: coming to a humor section near you soon...
Tony,
this is good stuff... I knew it was a winner in the intro...
AND the .... :-) rofl
John
(a dbl "e" wannabe)
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 28 May 97 14:38:07 CDT
> From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson)
> Subject: Engineering Definitions...
>
> For all you engineering types, AND the
> mechanical engineers too. :)
>
> SOME GOOD ENGINEERING MATERIAL
>
> TOP Twenty-One Engineering Definitions
>
> 1. A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT APPROACHES ARE BEING TRIED
> We have no idea how we are going to do it.
>
> 2. AN EXTENSIVE REPORT IS BEING PREPARED FOR A FRESH APPROACH TO
> THE PROBLEM
> We just hired three kids right out of college.
>
> 3. CLOSE PROJECT COORDINATION
> We know who to blame.
>
> 4. A MAJOR TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTHROUGH
> It works okay, but looks very high tech.
>
> 5. CUSTOMER SATISFACTION IS ASSURED ON DELIVERY
> We are so far behind schedule the customer will be happy to get
> it delivered.
>
> 6. PRELIMINARY OPERATIONAL TESTS WERE INCONCLUSIVE
> The thing blew up when we turned it on.
>
> 7. TEST RESULTS WERE EXTREMELY GRATIFYING
> We're surprised the thing works.
>
> 8. THE ENTIRE CONCEPT WILL HAVE TO BE ABANDONED
> The only person who understood the thing quit.
>
> 9. IT'S STILL IN PROCESS
> It's so wrapped up in red tape that the situation is hopeless.
>
> 10. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT
> Screw it! We have enough problems for now.
>
> 11. PLEASE READ AND INITIAL
> Let's spread responsibility around for the screw up.
>
> 12. GIVE US THE BENEFIT OF YOUR THINKING
> We'll listen to what you have to say as long as it doesn't
> interfere with what we've already done.
>
> 13. GIVE US YOUR INTERPRETATION
> I can't wait to hear this crap!
>
> 14. SEE ME, LET'S DISCUSS IT
> Come into my office, I'm lonely.
>
> 15. ALL NEW
> Parts not interchangeable with the previous design.
>
> 16. RUGGED
> Too heavy to lift!
>
> 17. LIGHTWEIGHT
> Lighter than RUGGED.
>
> 18. YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT
> One finally works.
>
> 19. ENERGY SAVING
> Savings are achieved when the power switch is off.
>
> 20. LOW MAINTENANCE
> If it breaks it's fried.
>
> 21. IT'S UNDER INVESTIGATION
> I've had such a small amount of work to do lately that I've
> been blowing that particular project off, and I'm just here
> screwing around!
>
>
>
>
> Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com)
> IFSJA TX/OK Chapter RC
> 1964 Wagoneer Copeville, Texas
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:05:25 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: strange PNW typing patterns...
> sorry, my tounge got set off it's hinges again:)
seems to be a PNW kind of thing... :-)
how many words a minute can you type???
I've found it much easier using my fingers... They usually tend to
slow my brain down... especially after all the backspacing....
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